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Posted: Mon Apr 10, 2006 10:50 pm
by suleman36
oh and if you were worried about the price of this. Try and beat these prices on this unit amazing unit. Im actually happy with my DEH-P860MP but at these prices im considering upgrading :)

http://search.ebay.com/DEH-P880PRS_W0QQ ... Q2dP880PRS

Posted: Tue Apr 11, 2006 4:32 am
by OnYrMrk
you might try to find the apocalyptic Alpine 7909 somewhere.

I like that Premier unit, wish I hadn't spent for the eclipse 8455 at times, then I listen to my car, and that thought goes away

Posted: Tue Apr 11, 2006 8:00 am
by jron
man that deck looks pretty solid, nice prices too.

Posted: Tue Apr 11, 2006 10:29 am
by Jonathan
Eclipse works, I've now verified that :D . Now I've gotta do all that fun underdash tracing and figure out exactly why my ignition source isn't working correctly.

Looks like I'll be getting an Audiocontrol processor after all

Posted: Tue Apr 11, 2006 10:41 am
by suleman36
http://www.pioneerelectronics.com/pna/p ... 53,00.html

The pioneers are very nice looking and are built very good. For the overall features and looks and reliability, you can beat it.

Posted: Tue Apr 11, 2006 10:44 am
by suleman36
Jonathan, heres the one i am currently using and its been outstanding. Offers a Auto EQ and Auto Time Alignment feature that really impressed me once i completed it. http://www.pioneerelectronics.com/pna/p ... derModel=Y

Auto EQ
Finding the "sweet spot", or optimal listening position, is complicated by sound's reflection and damping, as well as variable speaker positioning in the irregular shaped confines of a car. Such conditions tend to degrade frequency characteristics. Auto EQ automatically fine-tunes the entire range of the music's frequency bandwidth, using 13-band graphic equalization for front and rear speakers. Simply plug in the included microphone and let the frequency band fine-tuning go to work. It;s like having a sound engineer customize your in-car sound system.

Auto Time Alignment
Pioneer's innovative Auto Time Alignment automatically shifts the soundstage in front of the listeners, bringing out the vocals in the process, to create the optimal in-car reproduction of your music. Using the included microphone, it estimates the delay from each speaker to the listening position and adjusts the speaker sound output timing accordingly. The output timing for each speaker is adjusted precisely so that the sound from each speaker, wherever it is installed, reaches the driver's ears at the same time, thus optimizing the listening experience.

Hi-Volt (6.5V) Pre-Outs
If you decide to connect an amplifier to the DEH-P860MP, its three Hi-Volt (6.5V) pre-outs will deliver a clean, powerful signal path. The higher the volts that a pre-out provides, the better the signal strength to your amp, and then your amp doesn’t have to work as hard. These Hi-Volt pre-outs help give you better dynamics, crisper highs, and big, deep bass.

Posted: Tue Apr 11, 2006 10:46 am
by sinister audio
OnYrMrk wrote:I like that Premier unit, wish I hadn't spent for the eclipse 8455 at times, then I listen to my car, and that thought goes away
that was my thought. id never replace my eclipse with a pioneer that would be a very bad thing to do.

Posted: Tue Apr 11, 2006 10:50 am
by Jonathan
Geez man, I said the Eclipse was working :lgh

Seriously, though, I downloaded the OM to the Premier and saw that it can run 3 way active like the Eclipse can, just didn't see them mention it on the website. So if the Eclipse does die on me in the future, it'll be an option.

But right now it really doesn't have anything to offer me over the Eclipse. I've already got T/A, 5 bands of PEQ for the mids and another 5 for tweets, 3 way active crossover, 3 pairs of 8V preouts, yada yada, you know the deal since you've already had one.

Posted: Tue Apr 11, 2006 10:53 am
by Jonathan
If I upgraded in the future and didn't get that Alpine DVA unit, I'd probably end up getting the Clarion DRZ. That's a VERY nice head unit.

I'm about to go experiment, though. I've got some JL XR tweeters laying around and I'm going to see if it can improve the stage width. I'll give an update. I just can't wait until these Excel mids get in..that'll be a HUGE improvement.

Posted: Tue Apr 11, 2006 11:03 am
by suleman36
cool. Am i missing anything i should add to my system to complete/enhance it in your opinion and if so what and what brand model.

My system:

Pioner Premier DEH-P860MP
CDT-HD62 component set
PPI A600.2 / 150 x 2 @ 4 ohm bridged for frontstage
Arc Audio 1500-XXK / 900 watts rms @ 4 ohm bridged for SUB (ID MAX 12)