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Posted: Thu Mar 30, 2006 5:07 pm
by ridr4lif
The two 12's will potentially get louder, but im sure the 10's will get plenty loud for you. You will save a little money and space in your trunk.
The ZX just looks like an updated KX amp. If you could still find a KX, it would probably cost you less and do the same thing.
And yes, if you get either one of those amps, you will be giving each sub 175 RMS. Which is perfect.
edit: the amp that Team AI linked you to before is an awesome deal. Might wanna jump on it b.c the auction ends soon. Also, do you have an aftermarket HU yet, or are you looking for one also?
Posted: Thu Mar 30, 2006 5:08 pm
by Team AI
I don't think it really matters about the extra 29 bucks as I don't think a whole lot has changed internally in the amp itself (I may be wrong) so I would say that it's totally up to you and whatever makes you feel more comfortable.
Posted: Thu Mar 30, 2006 5:08 pm
by NViejeP
I'm not really interested in refurbished products.
Posted: Thu Mar 30, 2006 5:11 pm
by Team AI
A lot of people aren't but really it's a brand new amp in an old case but again it's whatever makes you feel more comfortable. I only bought refurbished cause I needed to save money.
Posted: Thu Mar 30, 2006 5:12 pm
by NViejeP
I haev an aftermarket HU already with pre-amp outputs. So it's all good.
I'm not really interested in refurbished stuff, but if you guys convince me that the amp is just as good or NEARLY as good as brand new, I will go ahead and just buy a refurbished KX. I would be saving around $50 over a ZX if I purchased refurbished. It's awfully hard to find a bradn new kx350.2.
Also do any of you guys have a specific box brand you guys cna recommend, I thinkl I'm going with 2x 10" RE RE.
Posted: Thu Mar 30, 2006 5:14 pm
by ridr4lif
As for boxes, i really cant recommend a pre-fab. Im not a huge fan of them.
I would recommend building one yourself or having someone on this board build you one and ship it to you.
The refurb should be fine and should have at least a 90 day warranty. I would buy a refurb.
Posted: Thu Mar 30, 2006 5:17 pm
by NViejeP
Okay cool.
1) I don't plan to build a box.
2) If you guys recommend buying refurb is good, safe, and worth saving $50 over a brand new amp, then i'll do it! Hopefully it'll turn out great and will sound good.
3) Thanks a lot for everything.
Kicker KX 350.2 Refurb, KnuKnonceptz 8 ga, 2x RE RE10, is my setup. All I need is a box, anyone recommend a certain Cubic feet or material or something? Should I go SEALED or PORTED? Remember that I'm big on SQ, and I don't want headache bass!
Posted: Thu Mar 30, 2006 5:17 pm
by Team AI
about the only company I know much about is Q logic, from what I've seen they make really good enclosures, I know there are some guys on this forum that could design an awsome enclosure and hook you up with a cut list. if possible I would do a search and see if it hasn't already been done and build it yourself and save some money.
edit: I keep posting slow lol
Like I said my 350.4 is a refurb and I've had it for a while now with out so much as a hint of trouble with it and it sounds and works just as well as the brand new 600.1 sitting next to it.
Posted: Thu Mar 30, 2006 5:20 pm
by ridr4lif
PM sinister audio and see if he will either build you a box or give you a cut sheet. I think Ryan from Ohio also builds boxes. As for cu.ft., look on RE's site, and use their recommended enclosure. All boxes should be made of MDF...or fiberglass.
Posted: Thu Mar 30, 2006 5:22 pm
by Jonathan
If you're not as worried about loud and are more after SQ, I'd recommend getting one better sub than two lesser ones. Something like a single RE SE, or an Image Dynamics IDQ, JL W3v2, things in that price range. It'll also be cheaper to have installed, especially if you have to have a box built for it. You should be able to get either in the $200 price range or less. All are great.
Kicker amps are great on a budget, a KX400.1 would power any of the above subs well. The JBL 600.1 is a good amp, just getting harder to find. You could get a Kicker 200.2 or 350.2 for the fronts as well. What would be even cheaper overall is a Kicker KX550.3, which is a 3 channel hybrid that offers 400W RMS for a sub and an additional ~75x2 for the front speakers. That option (the 3 channel) would again be cheaper as far as the installation and wiring, while the amp itself shouldn't cost you more than $350 (you'll probably find it around $300).
I wouldn't bother putting a lot of money into rear speakers. Run your stocks off a HU and leave it at that, invest the rest into the front stage.
That leaves $500 for the front stage, install, and wiring. As far as budget component speakers, you could go with something like JL Audio XRs or CDT HDs. The HDs would be especially good for a stock door application, they offer a braxial mount that mounts the tweeter over the woofer. That'll simplify the install, you won't have to hack your car to put a tweeter anywhere. I do feel the XRs are better components if you put more effort into the installation, but that is past the scope of most enthusiasts. The Alpine Type-X components and Image Dynamics Chameleons are other notable sets in the price range. You should find all of them for under $300.
There are some good prefab sealed boxes if you got them from someone like Subzone, and they won't cost you a lot of money. On top of that, Knukonceptz offers wiring kits to save you cash there. You should be able to get both for around $100.
The install of the amplifier and speakers will eat up the rest of your money. I'd recommend you do as much as you possibly can just to cut back on that cost.