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Posted: Thu Mar 23, 2006 4:45 pm
by Jonathan
Sometimes a multi-mag can be cheaper for a given flux density target, too. If that were the case, that would be his main reasoning.

Radial magnet designs are successful in some areas. Look at the Aura Neo-radial designs and the SEAS Hexadym motor.

I wish the JBL Differential Drive patent would run out already. That's a sweet motor design.

Posted: Thu Mar 23, 2006 6:53 pm
by mikechec9
Jonathan wrote:Sometimes a multi-mag can be cheaper for a given flux density target, too. If that were the case, that would be his main reasoning.
Radial magnet designs are successful in some areas. Look at the Aura Neo-radial designs and the SEAS Hexadym motor.
I wish the JBL Differential Drive patent would run out already. That's a sweet motor design.
I've always been interested in the design. I initially read a review on the GTI when they first came out and was impressed (by M.E. I believe). Then, the team won 12 trophies (including Gary and Mark's 1st and 2nd Expert class). And that was in '04. I still hear nothing but good things about their components as well, but the company as a whole still seems to lack the drive to promote sales. I even like their amps (could be a bit smaller, but...). I can't stand bandwagons, but I could stand to see more of a push in the marketing department.
How would you compare/describe the GTI?

Posted: Thu Mar 23, 2006 7:40 pm
by Jonathan
Haven't heard the components. I've heard good things about the components, but not to the extent of "best I've ever heard". The components don't use the DDD motor, though, it'd be way too deep for a car door.

The subs, on the other hand, I can vouch for. Great SQL subs, very clean. Not the loudest out there, but they do a nice job.

I think Gary and Mark could win competitions with a Sony Xplod demo vehicle, though. They're just that good.

Posted: Thu Mar 23, 2006 8:20 pm
by mikechec9
Yeah, I just meant that maybe the publicity at competitions would boost sales of (what I understand to be) a relatively decent product. It doesn't seem to be the case with JBL's components, subs, or amps.
Jonathan wrote:I think Gary and Mark could win competitions with a Sony Xplod demo vehicle, though. They're just that good.
And if they did, I bet you Sony's sales would double. ;)
But, in their defense, JBL has never really been THAT dedicated to car audio, as they do so well everywhere else.

Posted: Thu Mar 23, 2006 8:26 pm
by JeremyC
Jonathan wrote:I think Gary and Mark could win competitions with a Sony Xplod demo vehicle, though. They're just that good.
Or a SQ comp with a set of Kicker L series subs.

I heard Robs accord when Gary did the 4 L series 12s, and the Focal Utopias, and it sounded really good. Granted he had an Alpine F1 series processor, and tons of tweaking, but it still suprising someone could get that type of SQ out of those speakers.

I just wish I would have know then what I know now. It would have made the listening experiance that much better.

Posted: Thu Mar 23, 2006 8:37 pm
by mikechec9
Mark did the same thing. Except his Kicker L's were in an aperiodic enclosure (go figure).
I agree, when you're good, you're good.

Posted: Sun Mar 26, 2006 9:13 pm
by geolemon
[quote="Ryan from Ohio"]I have yet to see where it says $600 boss ]
I didn't see any price listed...
I clicked "add to cart". ;)

Posted: Sun Mar 26, 2006 9:18 pm
by geolemon
Jonathan wrote:Haven't heard the components. I've heard good things about the components, but not to the extent of "best I've ever heard". The components don't use the DDD motor, though, it'd be way too deep for a car door.
I believe the components DO use DDD - the GTi components.
Very nice set...
I think they use neo magnets on them.
They aren't cheap though - I'd put them about on-par with say, JL XR's, which are about half the price. (of course, the XR's are a great value)

Posted: Sun Mar 26, 2006 9:22 pm
by Jonathan
Didn't figure they would *shrugs* I'd think they'd be unmanageably deep. Good to know, though. I didn't see any advertising of DDD on the components, where the readily did so for the subs. JBL's website isn't working for me at the moment, couldn't double check.

Posted: Mon Mar 27, 2006 4:17 am
by Ryan from Ohio
[quote="geolemon"]I didn't see any price listed...
I clicked "add to cart". ]

So you were looking at buying 4 then?

lol, because they are advertised for $150, not $600

:thumbsup