You might be a ricer if....

High Society · Post by **High Society** » Tue Mar 14, 2006 2:55 pm

High Society, take your type-R Tercel and go home!

I drive a ford ranger thank you very much!!

Jonathan · Post by **Jonathan** » Tue Mar 14, 2006 3:47 pm

High Society wrote:I drive a ford ranger thank you very much!!

Me, too! 2.3 liters of brute torque. The UGA license plate gave me about 50 extra hp and dropped a half second off my E.T.

sinister audio · Post by **sinister audio** » Tue Mar 14, 2006 3:53 pm

i use to have a ranger with a 2.9 in it not too much better than the 2.3 what you need is a 5.0 in there then you will drop a few seconds of your et

Mithrandir · Post by **Mithrandir** » Tue Mar 14, 2006 4:15 pm

hey I like neons and im not a ricer

Jonathan · Post by **Jonathan** » Tue Mar 14, 2006 4:16 pm

I contemplated a 5.0, but needed the truck really quick after the transmission went in my C-10.

Post by **GlassWolf** » Tue Mar 14, 2006 5:50 pm

Mithrandir wrote:hey I like neons and CAIs and fart cannons, but im not a ricer

FIXED

William from NOLA · Post by **William from NOLA** » Tue Mar 14, 2006 5:55 pm

Sorry, he's got you there! lol!

geolemon · Post by **geolemon** » Tue Mar 14, 2006 6:33 pm

Oh good, I'm glad my "domestic rice" page pictures are working:
http://www.betteraudio.com/geolemon/Rice/Rice.htm

I don't think "rice" with the import crowd has ever really been a problem... there's at least 10 vinyl-clad Cavaliers and Focuses with exhausts that actually SOUND like hollow tin cans, for every 1 Civic or other import car you see done up like that...
...except the exhausts on the Cavaliers and Focuses came from Pep Boys or something like some goofy pre-fab universal exhaust, and half the muffler sticks out from the bumper...

Check it out, I've actually got a picture of one in my "domestic rice" page...

And I don't think anyone owning a musclecar or a harley can be criticizing anyone for having a "loud exhaust".

(personally, I'm a fan of Japanese exhaust systems - the tight noise regulations in Japan mean quiet performance exhausts - on the other hand, you find me one Borla or whatever 'american' exhaust that is quiet... )

Anyway, I did that page up because I always wondered where the term "rice" came from, when the real originators of crap taste, poor judgement, and ghetto-hillbilly styling have had poor mods branded with those "calvin peeing on [insert domestic brand here] vinyl" that you've seen since the 1980's...

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Jonathan · Post by **Jonathan** » Tue Mar 14, 2006 6:46 pm

"Domestic rice" was included on this list-reference the Probe/ZX2/Cougar with Kanji stickers

I'd wager the opposite, though. Everywhere I've gone in this country points to imports FAR moreso than Cavaliers, Focuses, and Neons, with the Honda Civic being the prime example.

It all boils down to the fact that anything that's affordable will end up in the hands of teenagers-and anything that's affordable will end up being half-assed sooner or later. Enter the "ricer" scene

While imports still aren't as cheap to meet a specific performance goal, they are more affordable to begin with, and people want to justify each upgrade. Civics and Focuses and Cavaliers are everywhere and are dirt cheap.

15 years ago people were beefing up 5.0 Mustangs and F-bodies. The cars were cheap, easy to modify, the aftermarket had enormous competition thus low prices, and the engines used had huge performance potential. Thus, the popularity with the younger crowd. I guess the equivalent "ricers" of the era were putting enormous tires on a stock car, or the pee on stickers like you mentioned, or tried to make a 4 cylinder Mustang look like a GT, but it wasn't as bad as today because back cosmetics weren't a big part of the picture-the goal was to go fast. At least from my experience, there were more of them done "right". We didn't have the prominence of vinyls, huge spoilers, fart cannons, neon, things like that, which helped

It's just that with "rice cars", they've been given a template, a goal. Of course that goal would be a properly done import (1% of them). And they go to Pep Boys and Autozone trying to get el cheapo equipment to meet that goal. The joke is really aimed at all show and no go-which most "ricers" really are.

Regardless of your preference of car, you have to admit it is funny when someone doesn't do it right. Chassis scraping, cut coil springs, goofy vinyls, body kits that a kid can't afford to have painted, mufflers on a stock anemic engine. If you can't laugh at that, you're probably being laughed at

Post by **GlassWolf** » Tue Mar 14, 2006 7:19 pm

The term "rice" generally refers to cars with tacky modifications that serve no real performance improvement, such as an ironing board wing on a FWD civic with 85BHP.. painted bright lime green, with a ton of stickers added, and self tinted bubbling windows, and a monster tach for an automatic.
That said, it doesn't have to be a Japanese car to qualify.

I love a loud exhaust, when there's good reason for it being loud :)
In my case I run a 3.5" to 3" reduction via X pipe, Supercomp ceramic headers with 10" collectors, dual Dynamax superturbo 22" mufflers, and the car purrs if I'm gentle with the gas. If I stand on it, she roars, but that's hard to silence with my engine. The exhaust though, is actually "tuned" and a true performance exhaust, on a truly powerful engine.
It's not a resonator there to give the impression of power on a wimpy motor.

fwiw though, the SC on your Accord sounds pretty cool.. your setup is useful, and that I applaud.
It's a matter of doing something right, or doing it half-assed to look cool, but failing at all attempts.

big difference between actually tuned cars, and riced wanabes.
Mith isn't a ricer really.. he was wise enough to ask if there were real benefits, and he accepted the honest answers.. That's magnitudes above the average F&F poser, with spraypainted rims, and cut springs redefining bump-steer.