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Um ya that was my idea awhile back

Anyhow you can produce more than you can use...

So to get the alt up to speed it needs to be belt driven. You can use gears but the gears will undoubtly have more drag.

Anyhow belt drive, probably need a 3:1 to get the alt up to 3000 RMS or more...

I guess its hard to conceive why it wouldnt work? I mean if your using a 28 watt motor and gearing... Have an extra battery and all it should create enough to power the motor and charge the battery...

But there is no such thing as perpetual motion, so "they" say...

Maybe they just dont want us to really know

where's that stick?

GlassWolf wrote:where's that stick?

my grandma used to make us go cut our own.....

isn't that something like perpetual motion? something that people have been working on for years and years and............ anyway, I don't think its possible except in a large scale with a nuclear reactor making the power and use what you need and store the rest. but then there is that little thing called half-life....all good things must come to an end

"you'd win a nobel prize and probably become the single most important man in history."

LMAO.

There was a guy that asked me a similar question at work a while back: "what if you could make a car with an electric motor that turned an alternator that could put out enough to maintain itself?"

Electric motors are by far the most efficient compared to other things such as gasoline, diesels, and other engines running off of fuel. But they are still limited, and there is no such thing as free energy. The only "free" energy to us are things like solar power, wind, and are only free in the fact that we don't have to put any effort into extracting it, nor do we lose anything when we do. Magnetism is also essentially a freebie. The most efficient electric motors are around 95% efficient. No matter what you do, their output will always be less than what it uses. Then you have to take into account the efficiency of the alternator, and the fact that the power required to turn the alternator will also be greater than the power it produces. Probably the easiest way to see this is numerically, with a comparison of the horsepower required to supply the motor compared to the horsepower that it puts out.

Humm yeah as everyone said it won’t work because of the resistance…. If you could find a device that was 0 resistance it would work… but, everything has resistance that I know of. think of an elastic ball, if you drop it, it isn’t going to bounce up to your hand.

I have always been interested in these kinds of perpetual motion devices. I have always had my idea or two. I would try to post them but the drawings are wayyy to complex for me to even begin try to draw.

Almost all of my ideas were centered on:

Magnetism
Pendulums
Weights
And just using gravity to your advantage.

Those are all of my ideas on a start to perpetual motion. If anyone else has some other ideas that are similar let us know :) I would be quite curious. Haha trust me I’m not going to figure anything out I’m only 17 but I always like to think about perpetual motion.

Once one figures out how to get something into perpetual motion…. You have saved the world. Literally.

just like kiki said i dont belive there will ever be perpetual motion you cannot create or destroy energy...

There are already prototypes of "free energy" motors, basically permanent magnet motors that can continually turn. Many people make claims they can't back up about these motors, so you have to be careful believing what you hear.

I say just buy a monkey and have him pedal a bicycle that is connected to an alternator.

soylent green :)