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I started wondering about adire after the whole issue over that public statement they made about their XBL^2 motors and how they're superior to other brands licensing their designs..

seemed a bit.. uncivil.

I started wondering about adire after the whole issue over that public statement they made about their XBL^2 motors and how they're superior to other brands licensing their designs..

over at SIN, they said they took it out of context. Even Dan Wiggins him self said that. He simply stated that just because a driver utilizes xbl tec, doesn't mean it's the same sub compared to another one. http://www.carstereos.org the adire forum, I know they talked about it there.

i agree. should have let their superior performance speak for itself. let the rep do the talking for them.

*edit* so much for that rep :angry15:

Hmmm...

Yet another company that started off good start to turn to crude?

I hope not!

Its a shame to see them go from a quality product to an out sourced garbage...

Well I think there is enough info here to fairly warrant them into the Questionable list. They are sounding so MUCH like Elemental Designs.

Ryan from Ohio wrote:Hmmm...
Its a shame to see them go from a quality product to an out sourced garbage...

they actually now have their own build house. but yes, i believe it's in chile. but the bs that they shoot to their customers is rediculous. if you can't do it, just say so. follow up and send out updates as to the status. or at bare minimum, return emails or phone calls. if i ever get my subs back, i'm fairly certain they will have heard the last of me (shaking fist). positively at least.

I'd replace that thing with an SX. I can beat on mine all damn day giving it 1.2k and rarely even bother the sub.

come to think of it, the tempest and the maelstrom are supposed to be the spl units of the company.
"We even developed some new glues, and we exclusively use cyanoacrylates. Amazingly expensive (runs about $300/pound), but extremely resilient and strong. Simply the best glues you can use, bar none. The glue for the former joints (spider/cone/former connections) is a new high temperature blend that maintains over 3300 PSI of bonding strength at a temperature of 300 deg C. To rip a spider from the former takes around 400 pounds of force - it just doesn't happen unless something goes REALLY wrong in operation.
Likewise the glue to hold the plate laminations and motor together. A drop of a Koda motor from 8 feet on to hard concrete shattered the aluminum basket, and cracked the magnet, but the motor stayed glued together, and nothing shifted."
"If you want a balls-to-the-wall SPL sub, don't go with the Brahma or Tumult - go with the Tempest or Maelstrom. Those are the SPL units."
sounds like someone should run for a political position. particularly based on the above images. a potentail ed in the making indeed.

I think i'd avoid ever having to go through Adire's customer service again. There are plenty of other companies out there. Check out your options man.

yeah it sucks ass but theres always room for improvement, so.. ohwell... i need to get some components and crap anyway.. plus im lookin to get a truck, so... fuk'er

Peerless and Dayton have some attractive alternatives for little cash output. The Dayton Reference and Peerless XXLS are excellent subs, though the Dayton would be the better car sub simply because the Peerless has an untreated paper cone (performance degrades with moisture). Not *quite* as much output as a Tempest, but saying the Dayton is on special for $104, you can get two for the cost of a Tempest. They're also ready to ship from a very reputable distributor (Parts Express).