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About the only thing that has been good was at one of the other stores showed off my car to this dude with a convertible M3 and he wanted a full Audison/Focal Utopia Be system. Jerk. He bought 2 Thesis, the Focal No7 Be and the 33Wx sub. Jerk

but my car is the one that sold him on those components. and he bought the same head unit as I have (Eclipse CD8455)

had to show me up, sure his equipment is better, but he is just trying to get a good listening environment, mine is set up to compete with. When it is all said and done, I am sure my stereo will sound better overall than his.









yea right....

btw, jerk paid over 20,000 cash for the total install.

I dunno about the car audio world of old, but I do know all the people I know getten car stereos only look at buying the 18" Subs with the 2000Watt amp and a set of Sony Xplods for speakers. I like to hear words and quitars riffs and not just the melody of my trunk and sunroof rattling.

my son's best friend came over and wanted to hear my car, so I found the Gwen Stefani "Hey Baby" song on my misc cd, found out which number it was, and let him listen to the Focal #5 cd for SQ...and all he said was, damn man you spent all that cash and it doesn't even bump. So I cued up "Hey Baby" and he about crapped his pants. Then he asked how many subs I had, I told him 1...he said I was bs'in him, but when I showed him, he was impressed. Told me how much harder it would "bump" if I had 15's like he has in his car.

SOOOOO I listened to his car, and while loud, all I heard was......tssss tssss tssss boooooooooom.....tssss tssss tssss boooooooooooom.

One pair of tweeters, one pair of 15" Kicker CompVR's I think.

ludicrous

i think that SQ is dying.. not totally dead. i think its because of how mainstream stuff has gotten though.. every other company seems to sel car audio. People tell me that Sony, Pioneer, Dual, etc are the best. Its like talking to a brick wall when you say X sucks.

there is nothing more annoying to me than when some dumb punk says well i got these sweet ass audiobhans or when someone says i want to put 3 12s and 2 15s in my trunk! i had a kid tell me that today. can you hook me up with 3 12's and 2 15's for like 300 bucks and i was like sure you can get some nice legacy paper weights for that. and hes like wtf! i then said dude i can try to help you here but it seems you have your heart set on doin stupid shit so good luck with that

I think it's also because of what is readily available on the internet. Go to any internet site and look at what you get cheap: Kicker, MTX, Alpine, Kenwood, Fosgate, just the mid-level mediocre crap. Not counting total crap like Audiobahn, DUB Mag Audio, and countless others. Crappy brands have saturated the market, and audio shops sell them because they get reasonable profits and sell them in high volumes.

Then you have no forum support for respectable brands. JL Audio is an example, it's either "overpriced" or "overrated" or whatever because they aren't legally available online, are available in their local audio shop, whatever reason they can come up with. Basically they can't stand that JL has respectable business practices and doesn't cater to the online budget buyer that's looking for burned off serial numbers at half cost. Same goes for many other brands, but there are some that are targeted the most.

All I really want is a system that sounds as live as the real thing. I also want a system that I dont need hearing aids (if I did that is)

"All I really want is a system that sounds as live as the real thing."

Don't we all :)

Well, I am definitely SQ!! But I like it loud too!! lol Odviously SQ is not as popular as it once was, but we have like 5 people just on this little thread that know what the hell they are talking about(not including me) and ARE SQ. So it will never DIE like i keep hearing people say. I will not let it die!!! What aggravates me is that now that I am finally getting back into stereos, and have the money to buy it, there are ALL these brands that used to be good that suck now!! Then there are the ones that I haven't heard of, that I am told RULE!! WTF?!?! I am just so damn confused!! lol Anyway, thats all I got..

True SQ "Audiophile" fanatics are far and few between.

Most people just spurt out "I want a system that is really loud, sounds good and costs $XXX.XX" I put it at that as mos tpeople want all that UNDER $1,000...



Many people are walking the line of SQL. They want something that can and will get loud and retain a fair amount of SQ.

I know I fall into this catagory, leaning more and more towards SQ.

Its pretty crappy thing to realize nowdays. When yuo talk to someone new and all they care about is the power you are running and your overall SPL. THey are so dead set on knowing whose system is better just off that or amplifier output and numbe/size of subs...

Stupid newbs...

These are the people I cant stand. Especially when you try to talk sense into them...lol