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Posted: **Fri Sep 30, 2005 9:59 am**

The one person I know who goes to scottsdale about 3-4 times a month, is a girl. What kinda info she will give me

lol.

Posted: **Fri Sep 30, 2005 10:00 am**

haha that should be pretty good. she would be able to see how the place looked atleast and see how it kinda is running.

Posted: **Fri Sep 30, 2005 10:05 am**

Well I can tell you that scottsdale is a very nice place. I've had a couple soccer tourneys there. The girl that goes up there says she wants to live there. I think thats one of the few places in AZ that gets snow.

You should be use to that I'm sure, but the temp is pretty much a good living avg.

Posted: **Fri Sep 30, 2005 10:09 am**

sinister audio wrote: ...even though the new RF stuff isnt very good it would be interesting to do it though.[/url]

When you say that RF Stuff isn't very good, what exactly are you talking about?

I personally wouldn't hesitate to use their Power line of amplifiers... definitely a sign the old is still in their blood...

Posted: **Fri Sep 30, 2005 10:12 am**

everyone of their punch lines i wouldnt even use as a paper weight, and the power ones arnt very impressive for what they cost.

Posted: **Fri Sep 30, 2005 10:21 am**

Well here is what I find impressive about them...

The t8004 rated @ 50x4 actually cranked out more than x2 its rated output @ 4ohm
This is also a high current design (much like the DLS) that are stable @ 1ohm...

Here is what I found...
------------RF T8004 test------------
2 chn driven 4ohm
24.5v x 2 = 150 x2
13.33v 38.8A = 58% efficient

4 chn driven 4ohm
22v x 4 = 121 x 4
13v 63.5A = 58.6% efficient

1 side mono 3ohm
38.2v x 1 (3ohm) = 486.4 Watts
12.75v 79.5A = 48% efficient

Now if that is only the 50x4 amp is capable of I want to see that the T15004 can do (rated @ 125x4 @ 4ohm)

Nothing to sneeze at... so now the question... how much do they cost that makes that not a good amp to consider?

Posted: **Fri Sep 30, 2005 10:33 am**

i dont remember what the list price on those are but in comparison to others i thought it was pretty high at the time. do they still make the punch amps? cause like a year or 2 ago those sucked for what they cost. the ones that kids bring into my shop are the punch models and i never liked the way they made stuff sound. im sure the powers are alot better but i really dont like the punch ones.

Posted: **Fri Sep 30, 2005 10:46 am**

in agreement^

Posted: **Fri Sep 30, 2005 10:49 am**

No experience with the punch... I think it obvious those are marketed to the "rice crowd" that demands all the bling bling & no performance...

I believe they still make the Punch...
The Power & Type RF are their Highend stuff.
Their 25 to life brings back the old school Punch40, Punch75, Punch150 all already shipping for the colector types...

Oh yeah... meant to say Congrats on the Job Offer... you mus be doing something right

Posted: **Fri Sep 30, 2005 10:54 am**

Thats awesome that you got a job offer like that sinister. Congrats! But i guess its not worth closing down your own shop for..huh?

tedd

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