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justin you said some of the exact words i was thinking there and some i was typing.

If I ever had my vehicle customized and had the choice between West Coast Customs and Foose Design, it would be Foose hands down. I don't mind Pimp My Ride at all because it is a nice thing they're doing, taking a shat box and turning it into a nice looking ride for someone that's broke. Though it's true that systems are poo and the blenders are way over the top. That MTX is either under powered or just blows, 130db what a waste of money. Overhaulin in my opinion is top notch and you can't get much better when they take someone's wheels and turn it into a one of a kind masterpiece in less than a week. Every system that went into every car they've done was high quality and looked great.

i dont know about some of you guys but i know alot of you guys are like me and take this "hobbie" very seriouse so seriouse thats what we do for a living. and those guys are making it into a big joke and that pisses me off. at least on overhauling they get guys in there that do good installs and install equipment that is praticle and usually its pretty decent stuff to. and 90% of pimp my ride cars' probaly wont run for a month longer after all that stuff is done and what are they gonna do with a pimped piece of shit when it breaks down.

There is one thing that comes to mind when I watch Pimp my Ride. You drive a shitty car, and that will never change, but after the show you will then have a shitty car that can gather $20k-$30k on ebay. I wish I was so lucky to get pimped and watch my car appreciate 40-60x its true value in a matter of weeks.

pimp my ride does do engine work its just that the demographic they reach doesnt really care as much about that as they do paint and interior work. they just recently put a tpi small block in a chevelle for a guy.

I remember watching one episode where Xibit addressed this exact concern regarding engine repair. He said that they rarely show the mechanical improvements they make. I'm guessing probably because it doesn't have the "flash" that the viewers are looking fore.

I don't particularly like watching PMR because I see it as too over-the-top and unnecessary. I wish they would spend more time showing the stereo components and interior work rather than the gadgets they install like a kareoke (sp) machine or espresso maker.

BTW, the accusation about Sinister disliking the show because minorities are portrayed doing the work was totally out of left field. How could someone jump to that conclusion based on what he wrote? I think some medication is in order

don't bring race into this, audiocreative. Nobody brought up anything about nationality, ethnicity, or color till that remark.
I've seen WCC's website, PMR on TV, and their lines of amplifiers and hotwheels cars in stores. Their work isn't *that* impressive, and they over-commercialize. The whole MTV culture forced on that show is just sickening as an afterthought.. aside from the gayass bling factor and the overly tacky gimmick install tricks they do, they also state obviously false facts about the systems tehy install.

I've been severely unimpressed with every single system and car I've seen roll off the lot of Unique Autosports as well. Their installs look identical to most of what I see people do in their backyards with shortcuts being made on a lot of the installs, then bolting on a body kit and throwing new rims at a car and cahrging someone twice the cost of the actual car itself for the half-assed work.

Foose Design by contrast does quality work with full frame-off restifications from suspension to drivetrain to interior to body work fabrication and paint. Chip also does custom engine work that's very impressive when it's not being done in 7 days for a TV show where they're limited to a drop-in edelbrock solution for most projects.

I'm glad some of you like PMR and Unique.. but in my educated and experienced opinion, they're average at best. Chip's work is second to none, and if there's any doubt in that, see how many awards, including the Ridler Award Foose Design has walked away with compared to any of these other jokers.
Awards like the Ridler are only given to the absolute best builders in the world.

very well said kiki i dont think anyone else could of said it better.

What I've never liked about PMR is they seem to do the same things over and over.
Basically every episode is 'How many LCD's can we cram into this one'

I stopped watching it after what they did to that poor 4th Gen 4Runner Limited. They put flames on it

What channel is this Foose show on? I don't think I've ever seen it.

TLC (280 on DirecTV I think?)
Tuesdays.. Overhaulin' is the show title. Comes on just before Rides, at about 7p EDT
both shows are well worth seeing.
Foose's show gets a little cheesey with the pranks they pull to gank the car for a week from the owner as a surprise, but the work on the cars make up for it.