Ryan

[falkenbd]

I did it in one other thread, its a recent one.

In that spl thread I apologized for the way in which I brought this about.

I was being a smart ass sarcastic ****. Shouldn't have done that.

I'd still like to discuss the issue. As I have pointed out, Ryan jumps at the opportunity to pimp gear that he can sell, and then offers to sell it in whatever thread.

I noticed in the rules section there is a rule that states this type of action isn't allowed. So I pointed it out the wrong way...

If thats not a problem to any of the other admins, fine I'll leave it alone.

As the rules stated, it should be kept to for sale threads. I'd just like to know how the other admins feel its there thing

[Ryan from Ohio]

I flirt with the fine line because i call you out when you do something hypocritical? So your saying anytime we disagree with you your gonna ban people?

What tangent am i pushing? I'm simply stating that you yourself are being a hypocrite nothing else.

Are you seriously blaming me for Justin leaving? i pushed him over the edge? that's weird i had though that the ENTIRE forum wanted him gone. I was just the one with enough balls to stand up to him. he also tried to get me banned by coercing me into an argument in which i conducted myself in a fairly subdued manner and you would have had no reason to ban me for it.

O wait there's another tangent completely unrelated to you being a hypocrite...

Tangent

Come on man if your allowed to call them as you see them so can everyone else. what game am i playing i would love for you to tell me.

Answer who else on the forum is sponsored please. This isn't a tangent as you brought it up.

No what I am talking about is the snide and rude comments you have made and your continuance to push the bounds as you have been since registering here.

In the past few months you have commented on the "idiots here" or to that affect. Im not bored enough to search it out but thats clearly what you meant. While you were not directing this at anyone in particular, coming here and calling everyone idiots does irritate me a little bit. Dont come here and belittle the community.

And as for Justin. If his troll wouldnt of been discovered you would of been banned. however subdued you believe the posts were it was still grounds for being banned. He really did have you, until I figured it out and banned him on spot. I thought we shared a good chuckle out of this story. Im not blaming you for Justin leaving I am just stating you have skated a fine line for some time here... Obviously after that his departure was a good thing... And the entire forum wanted him gone? I dont think so... After we all were informed of what he did, yes. before that no.

What game are you playing? Its fairly obvious. Push push push... You just keep pushing. You pretty much single handlely took the friendly aspect out of this forum. Congratulations.

Who else on this forum is sponsored? I dont know. Im sure theres others here that are members but not regulars. You do realize this isnt the only audio forum out there? This isnt the only one Im a member of? You do realize my blanket statement applies to other things, like racing? Let go man it wasnt about you.

Since you guys are conducting this debate in public (and not in pm's) I'll stick my nose in.
In which thread (other than the spl one) did falken say something out of line?
Cause I'm kind of confused as what all went down here... I'm bored and have following this debate back and fourth but obviously a good bit of the story is missing? It's like reading the end of a book, now I'm curious!
It's probably none of my business but since part of the story is out there, it's only fair to get it all out there so people can form an honest/fair opinion. That or delete all threads.. something!

http://www.caraudiocentral.net/forums/s ... 697&page=5
Post #44.

Continues to push #48

#51 he gets even more out of line.

#52 he gets his warning

From there on I decided to stop reading that thread as I knew I was being trolled and what was being said was being misunderstood to validate and argument that wasnt worth the breath to argue about any longer.

Is that it?
The way Ryan was talking it sounds like falken has been warned several times (or at least once) prior?
Just asking...

No thats not it. As I posted.

I dont just ban people for something like that. As I stated earlier he wants to just come here and cause trouble and Im not going to allow it. This isnt caraudio.com and that kind of BS isnt going down here.

Thats the way its going to be providing I have any say about it.

This forum has had its "spats" before. This isnt the first and I know wont be the last. However I am disheartened by the negativity being harbored over the past year more than anything else. Ever since joining this forum in 1999 I have wanted to do nothing besides help other people that are less knowledgeable. To date I have spent more time and life doing this here than anyone else. I have went well out of my way on countless occasions to help people out. Thats what this place is about to me. When people come here and maliciously try to destroy that aspect I get heated.

[Bwcad1]

No what I am talking about is the snide and rude comments you have made and your continuance to push the bounds as you have been since registering here.

Push the bounds yea maybe a bit but nothing worth banning for obviously.

In the past few months you have commented on the "idiots here" or to that affect. Im not bored enough to search it out but thats clearly what you meant. While you were not directing this at anyone in particular, coming here and calling everyone idiots does irritate me a little bit. Dont come here and belittle the community.

Like to see this one. I have never called anyone on this forum and idiot.

And as for Justin. If his troll wouldnt of been discovered you would of been banned. however subdued you believe the posts were it was still grounds for being banned. He really did have you, until I figured it out and banned him on spot. I thought we shared a good chuckle out of this story. Im not blaming you for Justin leaving I am just stating you have skated a fine line for some time here... Obviously after that his departure was a good thing... And the entire forum wanted him gone? I dont think so... After we all were informed of what he did, yes. before that no.

Find the post and show me what was worthy of me being banned. I just went and looked and its miraculously missing???

What game are you playing? Its fairly obvious. Push push push... You just keep pushing. You pretty much single handlely took the friendly aspect out of this forum. Congratulations.

hmm thats weird im still friends with most people outside of this forum and none of the other admins seem to have a problem. must just be you.

Who else on this forum is sponsored? I dont know. Im sure theres others here that are members but not regulars. You do realize this isnt the only audio forum out there? This isnt the only one Im a member of? You do realize my blanket statement applies to other things, like racing? Let go man it wasnt about you.

Blah blah blah everyone see's right through your blanket BS.

I have spent hours on the phone with people on this forum and gone well out of my way to help them as well. I obviously loved this forum or i wouldn't pay my 10 dollars every year. I do everything in my power to help these people be it getting them better prices on equipment sharing all of my knowledge on a specific subject or just sitting on the phone talking with someone about there problems. I have donated my own money to people on this forum during hard times and i've even given my Place of work a letter of recommendation FOR YOU, Remember that bro? I hadn't even met you in person yet i signed with my name and my word that i would recommend you as an employee at a place i will most likely work till i die at. For you to sit there behind your desk and claim i single handily destroyed something i visit more than my girlfriend family and my dirty parts is pretty shitty. I used to consider you a friend.

[MobileAudio219]

I think most of the regular members here who are dealers have said I can get you this or that at one time or another.

Does Ryan try to push his items a little much? Eh, I can see it from both sides. He does seem to mention what he can get fairly often. If somebody said he needed to cool it down a bit I wouldn't totally disagree. On the other hand I've bought stuff from Ryan before and he wasn't pushy at all.

Should Falken be banned? I don't really think so. He pretty much called it as he seen it. He probably should of went to Chris about it though.

Do I think Ryan through a few jabs at Bill with the sponsor comment. Absolutely! There's not much doubt in my mind that those comments where directed towards Bill. But jabs were being thrown between them long before this thread.

My advice to everyone that has anything to do with this thread:

[Ryan from Ohio]

I have spent hours on the phone with people on this forum and gone well out of my way to help them as well. I obviously loved this forum or i wouldn't pay my 10 dollars every year. I do everything in my power to help these people be it getting them better prices on equipment sharing all of my knowledge on a specific subject or just sitting on the phone talking with someone about there problems. I have donated my own money to people on this forum during hard times and i've even given my Place of work a letter of recommendation FOR YOU, Remember that bro? I hadn't even met you in person yet i signed with my name and my word that i would recommend you as an employee at a place i will most likely work till i die at. For you to sit there behind your desk and claim i single handily destroyed something i visit more than my girlfriend family and my dirty parts is pretty shitty. I used to consider you a friend.

You dont have to tell me Bill Ive walked the same path- except Ive been doing it longer.

Remember when you wanted help at your first real competition and I drove to Cleveland? I do.

The posts with Justin if you remember he deleted it all after I asked him about IP address's matching... They didnt mysteriously disappear by my doings...

Like I said Im not gonna go looking for it. To many posts to wade through. You were making some rather snide remarks about this place in general. I think it was October/November area if that helps... Im sure such comment reflect great on us... Just like these little open air crying contests.

Its clear you have had an issue with me for some time now so you may as well get it out of your system now or we will continue to walk this path until you do. So to put it as you have...

If you want to call both my honor and credibility into question son you better be prepared

[Bwcad1]

You dont have to tell me Bill Ive walked the same path- except Ive been doing it longer.
Remember when you wanted help at your first real competition and I drove to Cleveland? I do.
The posts with Justin if you remember he deleted it all after I asked him about IP address's matching... They didnt mysteriously disappear by my doings...
Like I said Im not gonna go looking for it. To many posts to wade through. You were making some rather snide remarks about this place in general. I think it was October/November area if that helps... Im sure such comment reflect great on us... Just like these little open air crying contests.
Its clear you have had an issue with me for some time now so you may as well get it out of your system now or we will continue to walk this path until you do. So to put it as you have...
If you want to call both my honor and credibility into question son you better be prepared

btw what does justin have to do with the problem in question? o right nothing and you claim im the one taking it on a tangent.

You also said this is about defending me defending falken? now your saying its about me having a problem with you... another tangent...

Lets get back on topic you were being a hypocrite and got called out I would do the same for anyone else on the board and now your justifying it with a bunch of bullshit

[Bwcad1]

You dont have to tell me Bill Ive walked the same path- except Ive been doing it longer.
Remember when you wanted help at your first real competition and I drove to Cleveland? I do.
The posts with Justin if you remember he deleted it all after I asked him about IP address's matching... They didnt mysteriously disappear by my doings...
Like I said Im not gonna go looking for it. To many posts to wade through. You were making some rather snide remarks about this place in general. I think it was October/November area if that helps... Im sure such comment reflect great on us... Just like these little open air crying contests.
Its clear you have had an issue with me for some time now so you may as well get it out of your system now or we will continue to walk this path until you do. So to put it as you have...
If you want to call both my honor and credibility into question son you better be prepared

I'm gonna make this simple. If i see you or anyone else being a hypocrite on the forum I'm gonna call you out and id expect the same from anyone else about me. Do i have a personal problem with you personally now i do. You want to run around here trying to bash my credibility and move the deflect the argument from the matter at hand by bringing up Justin and how i destroyed your forum and i call everyone idiots and a million other tangents its fine man everyone see's through it.

Fact of the matter is this is still a forum on the internet and your nobody's daddy/guardian get over your power complex and return to earth.

I haven't attacked you as a person only defended the allegations you accuse me of and attacked your hypocrisy. you can go on with your little pity party all you want.

I'm not gonna change who i am to please you and I'm gonna continue to "call them as i see them" Including you or any other admin that wants to play god or be a hypocrite. if that's not welcome here than ban me.

Have a nice day.

[Chris from Washington]

As I said in the other thread, if anyone is breaking the rules of the forum. Please come to me about it. With a link to the thread in question.

Let's try and keep it off the forums if possible, otherwise nothing ever gets solved and people start saying things that shouldn't be said.

Does that sound OK to everyone?

[falkenbd]

As I said in the other thread, if anyone is breaking the rules of the forum. Please come to me about it. With a link to the thread in question.

Let's try and keep it off the forums if possible, otherwise nothing ever gets solved and people start saying things that shouldn't be said.

Does that sound OK to everyone?

So this thread and the other thread in question are handled then?

[Bwcad1]

As I said in the other thread, if anyone is breaking the rules of the forum. Please come to me about it. With a link to the thread in question.

Let's try and keep it off the forums if possible, otherwise nothing ever gets solved and people start saying things that shouldn't be said.

Does that sound OK to everyone?

:excited: