yeah thats another option, but the racing seats add a lil flare and r only 100 a piece, dunno yet.
how bout this combo
orion 600d
1 RE SE12
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the Orion 2500D is ~$200 on eBay. I forgot to mention that. If you want a cheaper model, there's the 1200D as well, which is plenty of power for a single XXX or two Atlas subs.
the XXX isn't the loudest sub around, but it's on par with a W7, Brahma, etc.. in the SQL market. 32mm Xmax, XBL^2 motor design, very flexible for enclosure choices, and a very very clean, accurate sub that still delivers a lot of output.
It's a very good balance between pue SQ and a load of SPL. Not the best in the world for either one, but very formidable in either field.
one drawback is the size. the 12" weighs in at about 60lbs for a single speaker, which means you need a reinforced box, with a doubled up front panel to support the speaker, and you want internal cross bracing for structural support due to the forces that sub can exert on the box with over a kilowatt of juice going to it.
http://www.realmofexcursion.com has a video or two of the XXX in action worth taking a peek at :)
the XXX isn't the loudest sub around, but it's on par with a W7, Brahma, etc.. in the SQL market. 32mm Xmax, XBL^2 motor design, very flexible for enclosure choices, and a very very clean, accurate sub that still delivers a lot of output.
It's a very good balance between pue SQ and a load of SPL. Not the best in the world for either one, but very formidable in either field.
one drawback is the size. the 12" weighs in at about 60lbs for a single speaker, which means you need a reinforced box, with a doubled up front panel to support the speaker, and you want internal cross bracing for structural support due to the forces that sub can exert on the box with over a kilowatt of juice going to it.
http://www.realmofexcursion.com has a video or two of the XXX in action worth taking a peek at :)
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Yeah JL Audio makes some stealth boxes that fire backwards in the center console of f-150's with buckets seats.deathbeckonsu wrote:yeah thats another option, but the racing seats add a lil flare and r only 100 a piece, dunno yet.
how bout this combo
orion 600d
1 RE SE12
http://www.jlaudio.com/stealthbox/f150.html
I'm not suggesting that you purchase one(they be mucho dollares), but with some foam rubber, vinyl, and lil added work you could make a neat enclosure that should sound good and double as a nice arm rest.
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you can get two brand new 10" Kicker Comp VR's on http://www.sounddomain.com for i think $140... id hit that up with like a JBL 600.1 or something similair.. that would do good... some JL Audio W3's would do good to..
oh and i can vouch for Memphis... all around great stuff.... ive heard most of their subs aside from the Mojo's... nice quality...
also. what are you looking for in sound?
oh and i can vouch for Memphis... all around great stuff.... ive heard most of their subs aside from the Mojo's... nice quality...
also. what are you looking for in sound?
Show me where a 2500d is 200 and i'll buy it right now.KikiTheCat wrote:the Orion 2500D is ~$200 on eBay. I forgot to mention that. If you want a cheaper model, there's the 1200D as well, which is plenty of power for a single XXX or two Atlas subs.
This is true... it sounds nice, but its far from an SPL woofer.the XXX isn't the loudest sub around, but it's on par with a W7, Brahma, etc.. in the SQL market. 32mm Xmax, XBL^2 motor design, very flexible for enclosure choices, and a very very clean, accurate sub that still delivers a lot of output.
It's a very good balance between pue SQ and a load of SPL. Not the best in the world for either one, but very formidable in either field.
The SX has no issues getting louder in most applications and sounds just fine... all while being much cheaper.
If you build the box properly, you dont need bracing... bracing will hurt SPL. A doubled up baffle is only needed in some designs, but is generally preferred anyway.one drawback is the size. the 12" weighs in at about 60lbs for a single speaker, which means you need a reinforced box, with a doubled up front panel to support the speaker, and you want internal cross bracing for structural support due to the forces that sub can exert on the box with over a kilowatt of juice going to it.
http://www.realmofexcursion.com has a video or two of the XXX in action worth taking a peek at :)
The sub doesn't put any more stress on the box than most any other woofer that can handle that much power... in most cases it puts LESS pressure on the box because its less effeciant.
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saw a couple others earlier but price went over 200 already.
The SX isn't designed to be a SQ sub. It's general purpose to SPL oriented.
Bracing a box for a sub that's high output is always beneficial. It improves efficiency which translates to higher SPL and better sound quality from the enclosure with less cabinet flex.
If you want to stick a 120 pounts of subs into a single piece of 3/4" MDF you be my guest, but for a pair of XXX 12" subs, 12W7, 13W7, etc subs, I always reinforce the front panel of teh enclosure to support the weight. I've seen boxes where people didn't, and paid for their foolishness the hard way.
I've been doing this for a little while. I know what I'm doing.
"Sensitivity," which is expressed in dB, should not be confused with "efficiency" that is expressed as a percentage of power out relative to power in. Efficiency data for loudspeakers suffers from many problems such as failure to consider variations in frequency response.
Speaker efficiency is the ability of the speaker to do work or use power. The more efficient the speaker; the less power is required for the speaker to produce sound. Voice coil design, type and size of the magnets, speaker cone design and material, speaker size, etc. all play a critical role in determining speaker efficiency. However, speaker size is a good general method for guessing efficiency.
Typical speaker efficiency (for physicists) is about 5%. Meaning that for 100% power input, you get about 5% acoustical work back.
Keep in mind that when considering subwoofers, or any speaker that will get more than ~100 watts RMS of power, these measurements are affected by other factors that make this specification less than useful when choosing between speakers.
The Efficiency of the XXX isn't going to mean the speaker won't put a tremendous amount of force on the enclosure it's in. Especially considering anybody with a XXX should be giving it at least 1Kw of power to begin with. I've seen weaker subs in poorly built enclosures destroy the box during high excursion due to exerted pressures.
why take the chance with a cheap box by cutting corners?
saw a couple others earlier but price went over 200 already.
The SX isn't designed to be a SQ sub. It's general purpose to SPL oriented.
Bracing a box for a sub that's high output is always beneficial. It improves efficiency which translates to higher SPL and better sound quality from the enclosure with less cabinet flex.
If you want to stick a 120 pounts of subs into a single piece of 3/4" MDF you be my guest, but for a pair of XXX 12" subs, 12W7, 13W7, etc subs, I always reinforce the front panel of teh enclosure to support the weight. I've seen boxes where people didn't, and paid for their foolishness the hard way.
I've been doing this for a little while. I know what I'm doing.
"Sensitivity," which is expressed in dB, should not be confused with "efficiency" that is expressed as a percentage of power out relative to power in. Efficiency data for loudspeakers suffers from many problems such as failure to consider variations in frequency response.
Speaker efficiency is the ability of the speaker to do work or use power. The more efficient the speaker; the less power is required for the speaker to produce sound. Voice coil design, type and size of the magnets, speaker cone design and material, speaker size, etc. all play a critical role in determining speaker efficiency. However, speaker size is a good general method for guessing efficiency.
Typical speaker efficiency (for physicists) is about 5%. Meaning that for 100% power input, you get about 5% acoustical work back.
Keep in mind that when considering subwoofers, or any speaker that will get more than ~100 watts RMS of power, these measurements are affected by other factors that make this specification less than useful when choosing between speakers.
The Efficiency of the XXX isn't going to mean the speaker won't put a tremendous amount of force on the enclosure it's in. Especially considering anybody with a XXX should be giving it at least 1Kw of power to begin with. I've seen weaker subs in poorly built enclosures destroy the box during high excursion due to exerted pressures.
why take the chance with a cheap box by cutting corners?
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