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by Ryan from Ohio » Mon Mar 06, 2006 9:02 am

Well trying to power them @ 10 Ohms isnt a good thing here.

Especialy considering my tweeter situation...

It sucks to hear the NSB's are all sold out. Now if I blow these Im going to have to buy something else thats going to be more expensive and probably not the same...

by geolemon » Mon Mar 06, 2006 8:11 am

GlassWolf wrote:always good to see someone else bring this up. It seems like every week I end up responding in some forum to someone asking about 2 ohms vs 4 ohms and pros/cons etc..
Well, even more interesting than that, is something that people can't wrap their minds around...
We're living in a world of "cheap amplification" I guess.. :rolleyes:
...the relationship between "power" and "loudness".

It takes a power increase larger than a 4x increase in power, to effect not even a 2x increase in output.
(theoretically, it would be exactly "4x" and "2x", but you have to factor in losses and inefficiencies like power compression as well, in reality)

Which means "increasing power" isn't a very efficient means of increasing loudness at all - and unless you are really feeding your sub a piddly little amount of insignificant power to begin with, chances are it can't take 4x whatever it is you are feeding it currently.

It's ludicrous then, to see someone taking a small amp, and clipping the hell out of it - and why? "Well, I don't have many watts, I need to squeeze out all of them I can get!" :rolleyes:

I always try to get people to not worry about power, and worry about their enclosure instead - make that ideal for what their goals really are for their system, rather than trying to "brute force" something that is stacked against you to begin with. ;)

by GlassWolf » Mon Mar 06, 2006 6:19 am

[quote="geolemon"]Higher impedence = higher sound quality - bear that in mind too. ]

always good to see someone else bring this up. It seems like every week I end up responding in some forum to someone asking about 2 ohms vs 4 ohms and pros/cons etc..

by Ryan from Ohio » Mon Mar 06, 2006 4:14 am

Didnt know they sold out. I got them some time ago :)

Ture on your points, but need the power!

by geolemon » Sun Mar 05, 2006 7:13 pm

Higher impedence = higher sound quality - bear that in mind too. ;)
Lower distortion specs, primarily... more headroom, unsaturated power supply, etc.

I thought Parts Express sold out on them a while ago? :confused :

I bought 40 of them myself - intend on using 32 of them (was worried about DOA's)... haven't built my big tall dipole line-arrays yet (haven't finished my Tiki room yet though either :D ).

by Ryan from Ohio » Sun Mar 05, 2006 1:52 pm

Ya the $0.50 NSB's on parts express.

I want to run a 4 channel amp to them and the tweeters.

So 1 channel to each group- LTweets, L Mids, R Tweets, R Mids...

by geolemon » Sun Mar 05, 2006 1:05 pm

Jonathan wrote: Are you talking about those little 5W speakers for the Beretta?
Just saw this...

If they are that low, I'd suggest wiring them series/parallel for a 10 ohm load...

...and then just wiring them to a bridged stereo amp:
If it was good for, say, 100w at 4 ohms bridged, chances are it'll be just about dead on 50w at 10 ohms.

And that seems good for little 5w speakers - 10w per each but who's counting? I'm sure they must be able to handle more.
And a 100w stereo amp - I'm assuming this is for a little fun experiment- can be found for cheap just about anywhere. :cool:

by GlassWolf » Sun Mar 05, 2006 7:23 am

I vote active crossover network with one amp per speaker!!

*runs and hides*

by William from NOLA » Sat Mar 04, 2006 8:27 pm

Sounds like a Franken-Beretta

by Ryan from Ohio » Sat Mar 04, 2006 7:11 pm

1.6 Ohmmmmmmmsssss weeee

That will work out pretty good then. Considering the 4 4Ohm tweeters that will require 60WRMS between the 4...

:)

So now Im looking for a four channel amp with an output of 50 WRMS in 2 Ohms...

:)

I just was thinking about this scratching my head... Thanks for the help. Not to often someone has such a weird configuration...

Yes for the beretta... Same with that MSI Mega 180 Car/Home PC I posted about... hehe

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