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by **solacedagony** » Tue Dec 19, 2006 9:40 am

Pfft, forget that. The sound in my car right NOW is good enough and I've already spent over 2 grand on it. I can't even justify another 2 grand in my dreams

I've mostly been looking at sticking some of the large format tweets in for their low crossover point.

by **OnYrMrk** » Tue Dec 19, 2006 9:28 am

USD Still sells them, but they start at about 2 grand...

best bet is to check ebay, or elitecaraudio.com for some deals.

even if they have a bad speaker, get the horns, then go to Parts express and get a new compression driver

by **solacedagony** » Tue Dec 19, 2006 9:12 am

Hmm. How much is a decent set of those?

Sorry for offtopic.

by **OnYrMrk** » Tue Dec 19, 2006 8:50 am

Not at all, just add a set of midbass drivers to complement them, and poof...perfect front stage. If Focal made some, I would be on them like Stink on a skunks ass

by **solacedagony** » Tue Dec 19, 2006 8:41 am

Would def be nice for keeping all that to one driver. I have horns on my Pro Audio speaker, I'm not really into their sound though.
How do they do down low? Does it sound like they're stressing because they're playing such a large range?

by **OnYrMrk** » Tue Dec 19, 2006 8:08 am

hell, just buy some HLCD's that have a compressed speaker that will handle all frequencies from about 600hz up. I had a set of USD Waveguides that were loud as hell, and had little "horn-loaded compression" drivers, that looked like a tweeter when we took apart a toasted driver.

Your staging will be there, depth will be there, and it will be extremely loud.

by **solacedagony** » Tue Dec 19, 2006 7:45 am

Tweeters play the largest RANGE in sheer numbers, but if you break that down to octaves, my 2-way midrange plays a lot more. Plus the information is much more critical. Just my midrange playing would sound pretty dull though without all those pretty harmonics to clear up the sound.
2,500hz -> 20,000hz = 4 octaves
80hz -> 2500hz = ~5 octaves, but ones with much more info
I'm not knocking the importance of a tweeter at all. I just switched out my Bravox tweets for my BGNeo3 planars and the difference was huge. The dispersion is way better for my crappy install, although I'm not a fan of the extended top end that it seems to have.
I just wanted to explain the difference between the two in a little more depth.

by **smoker** » Tue Dec 19, 2006 6:54 am

tweeters are the most overlooked speaker in a system usuually, if you think about it they are very vital to the soundstage of they system as they have th potential to cover the largest range of frequencies.....if you run your sub up to 75hz and then let your mid go from that point up to 2.5k hz, you are now asking the tweeter to cover up to 200000 hz, now granted that most information isnt goint to be that high but they still have the largest range of frequencies to cover and are generally a second thought if they even exist as more than the tweeter in a coax speaker.....

by **solacedagony** » Mon Dec 18, 2006 7:08 pm

Actually, what your tweeter plays is completely up to your crossover. For instance, I have my crossover set to 2.5Khz @ 24db/oct. Some might crossover at 1Khz and some might cross at 5Khz and up. But, as a generalization, tweeters will reproduce the higher frequencies. If you try to play lower frequencies than the tweeter can handle, it will be toast.

by **BryanX33** » Mon Dec 18, 2006 6:42 pm

hmmm...alright

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