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71buickfreak wrote:wouldn't you rather a shop did it and their insurance pay for it instead of you being screwed?think about it. you have to think about the majority of the people out there who don't have the knowledge and abillity to do what we do before you judge a statement like that. and hey, its his job to sell stuff. don't get pissed because someone sold your parents some stuff you might not have wanted. it is his job.

As for the insurance comment:

When I looked into a business (refinishing) I looked heavily into insurance for the business. This is prett much what the agent told me "If you mess up doing whatever you do-thats your fault. Insurance wont cover that. If you accidently spill paint on something (providing your not a painter) it will cover it. So in short your the expert, you should know whjat your doing.

The fact still remains, this guy is selling stuff to people that dont need it. Then he is creating a fear factor that only applies to a certain few.

"My parents baught me my clarion head unit for christmas and they conned them into paying $120 for a box that makes the factory chimes work, thats it, no gauges, no lights, no nothin, just tells you when your door is left open."
If I bought cars with chimes, bells, whistles, I'd rip them out within a week. Like I really need a chime that reminds me that I just opened my own fricken car door, or that I just stuck the key in the ignition.

actually no. it is supposed to sound good, not just be loud. and no, that law will never pass. it is the end user that abuses the equipment.

71buickfreak wrote: wouldn't you rather a shop did it and their insurance pay for it instead of you being screwed?think about it. you have to think about the majority of the people out there who don't have the knowledge and abillity to do what we do before you judge a statement like that. and hey, its his job to sell stuff. don't get pissed because someone sold your parents some stuff you might not have wanted. it is his job.

Well i guess you do have a point. I just came across cocky becuase the news thing was only a way to get free advertising. If he wanted to advertise he should have paid for it, not tell a whole bunch of stuff to people just so he can make a few bucks. Thats my oppinion. But what does it count for...

Sadly enough people are moronic enough to attempt to install a stereo w/o doing their homework. A simple head unit install is the easiest thing to do yourself IMO. If you're buying retail and the installation is free..then sure..go for it. However, it seems people have more money than brains these days..spending a little time and doing it yourself gives you a sense of pride and happiness. But by any means..if you ever doubt yourself..DONT do it. Have the "pros" do it. Even if its a shitty best buy installer (not all are).

71buickfreak wrote:don't get pissed because someone sold your parents some stuff you might not have wanted.

Yea, blame the parents for being so gullible

Well, about two weeks ago there was a story about how Cape county(the county where the newstation is located) said that they were going to start cracking down on Peace Disturbance around that area. They claimed that stereo's caused to much peace disturbance. They even tried to start a bill saying that Stereo One should be taxed for the inconvience of there buisness, and by paying this tax it would alow them to stay open. Now i dont know a whole lot about law or anything, but is it legal to tax a buisness like that? Well I dont really care about it that much, but it seems like it is stupid. In the interview with the Stereo One manager(the same prick taking peoples money for nothing) said that the products he sells are not for loud music, just enjoyment. Now you tell me how he can sell JL, Alpine, Clarion, MB quart, and Kicker and not expect it to be loud, isnt that what a system is all about. Well who knows. I think that guy is a two-faced prick, i would love to give him the finger if i could.

actualy, its not BS. it depends on the vehicle, but there are some vehicles out there that use the ODBII system that runs through the OE radio. I f you remvove it, it will disable cetain things, even make the car not run. GM is the main culprit of this. The later model Oldsmobiles and some upper level pontiac lost the gauges and headlights in some vehicles. In cadillacs, the car won't even start if the factory radio is removed. the vehicle's computer runs a portion of the vin code, each module has a section. once it gets to the main computer, if there is a piece missing, no start. The part about fire hazards is true, think about it. If you as a consumer, who doesn't have a clue what he is doing, and drives a screw through the power wire and doesn't have proper fusing----boom. anybody can drive screw through a wire, even proffessionals from time to time do it. you can easily be killed installing an alarm system yourself or even a stereo if you hit an airbag wire and deploy the airbag. screwdrive in hand, bag hits hand, hand hits face boom serious injury or death. Just because most of us as a group are mechanically minded and have the knowledge and ability, doesn't mean that anybody can go install a stereo and be successful. I am sure most of us when we started blew some shit up not knowing what we were doing. it happens. When I was retailer, I always suggested that we do the install. 3 reason- I wanted more money. I didn't want the customer to screw it up and I have to replace the unit for free, costing me more time and money in shipping back goods. and 3, I didn't want the customer to mess up their car! it is possible to really mess up a simple stereo install and really screw up your car. I have seen it happen. even professionals make mistakes that ruin cars. wouldn't you rather a shop did it and their insurance pay for it instead of you being screwed?think about it. you have to think about the majority of the people out there who don't have the knowledge and abillity to do what we do before you judge a statement like that. and hey, its his job to sell stuff. don't get pissed because someone sold your parents some stuff you might not have wanted. it is his job.

All of those "potential dangers" he mentions are all in single instances on certain cars which can easily be avoided if you take simple measures.

Oh and not only is it incredibly effective advertising because "it was on the news", it's also FREE!! I can almost see why they did it though. A sales guy at a shop here told me that business has been pretty slow lately. I guess if you want the most money, that's the route to go.

yea thats my oppinion. Hes the same guy that tried to get me to pay $120 for a Fusion wiring kit, I gave him the finger and left when he said it was the best on the market. I would have never baught my Headunit from them if i knew he was going to screw my parents out of all that money for nothing. That kinda crap pisses me off!