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by **High Society** » Mon May 01, 2006 8:13 pm

Kiki, I knew what you ment, I was just kiddin, I would never intentionally call you an asshole...or would I?? hmmm lol. Oh and thanks for the link!!

by **GlassWolf** » Mon May 01, 2006 8:07 pm

honestly I wasn't trying to be an ass.. just honest.
I re-wrote that reply about 3 times to make sure it didn't get taken the wrong way in fact.

those books John mentioned are all linked at amazon from http://www.the12volt.com off the main page, click the "books" link in the left menu.

by **car1990** » Sun Apr 30, 2006 7:14 pm

I saw that Rainbow tweeter CAL 26 Titan VOF has power rating of 100W with sensitivity of 90db. Is Rainbow really so inefficient as requiring 100W to drive it? I thought a good clean 50W RMS can drive any tweeter effectively (other than Morel Supremo).

by **High Society** » Sun Apr 30, 2006 6:59 pm

Thanks John. I guess I'll just go active. Oh, and is it okay to hook up the x-over to the mids only, w/o the tweets? I thought I read somewere it puts a strain on the resistor's inside the xover, or will be be okay?

by **Jonathan** » Sun Apr 30, 2006 6:00 pm

I REALLY recommend you pick up a book on this if you really want to delve into crossover design. Something like "Introduction to Loudspeaker Design", written by John L. Murphy. Perhaps some of Vance Dickasons works as well, though they are geared to the advanced enthusiast and I'd recommend a simpler book first to get your fundamentals down.

Second: You're not going to get enough information from most car audio manufacturers. Most don't give you even half decent measurements, mainly because 99% of car audio equipment performs so poorly that the manufacturer would embarrass themselves by posting a true plot of their performance capabilities. Rainbow is an exception to the rule, but the info still isn't there.

by **High Society** » Sun Apr 30, 2006 5:23 pm

The problem is you're not really learning anything though. You're just asking us to do all of the work for you and pick the right tweeters, and the crossovers, etc.
What is that teaching you, yourself?

asshole

I picked the tweets then you guys tell me why they do or don't work. I learn why :)

by **GlassWolf** » Sun Apr 30, 2006 2:29 pm

The problem is you're not really learning anything though. You're just asking us to do all of the work for you and pick the right tweeters, and the crossovers, etc. :)

What is that teaching you, yourself?

by **High Society** » Sun Apr 30, 2006 10:47 am

http://car.rainbow-audio.de/files/dynam ... ers_en.pdf

PDF of all the tweet they have made. (its only 16kb so don't worry)

I looked for the CS line, and the tweeters a fabric. But William's review had silks. And what does VOF, and WOB stand for?

by **High Society** » Sun Apr 30, 2006 10:10 am

If you dont have the above info I can check my manual for you. I will have to dig it out of my walk in closet though

Can you do that Ryan, I don't have it yet. Oh and the tweet is an CAL 25 G I believe.

And Kiki, going this way, I can learn more, by finding out feq crosses,ect. Inside of just droping it and going with something else. And learing nothing.

by **GlassWolf** » Sun Apr 30, 2006 9:27 am

Bwcad1 wrote:ya thats like throwing two midgets into a ring and hoping they will fight! sometimes they just want to hug.

As a little person, I take offense to this!

HS, if you don't know what you're doing, I'd really suggest you just go ahead and buy Justin's component set and be done with this. Don't mess with separate component speakers and custom crossovers unless you have some background in doing this, or some sort of experience/education. Doing it blindly will almost always come out a disaster in the end.

Just trying to save you a lot of wasted effort.

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