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Also box wise, whats the recommended cu feet for an re se 12?

So its prettyu much the MB Quart RWE-304 http://www.woofersetc.com/index.cfm?fus ... 15D776903E

vs

The RE SE 12

$85 difference, wht would you guys do? Remember that I dont need bass to the point where I can get a headache.

I've got around $320 at the moment. Would probably like to keep around $70 just for gas or something. But, I'm probably going to go ahead and buy that kicker amplifer and some wires, soon.

Haven't decided on a sub yet, one mb quart ref appealed to me, 500 watt rms dvc 4 ohm for $100. And of course the RE SE 12 for like $185 or so. I'll see how my money works out and how much a box cost and I'll decide which one I want.

Haven't looked at too many speakers, but for a kicker 550.3 amp, how much RMS am I looking at for 2 ohm speakers and 4 ohm speakers?

And, once I get my amp all bought and everything, which upgrade should I do first, subwoofer or speakers? Subwoofer should cost a bit more, but im planning to eventually upgrade everything so yah.

GlassWolf wrote:Car audio isn't a cheap hobby.

Amen brother

honestly uner $200 is "cheap" for a good 12" sub. Very cheap. A lot of subs in the class of the SE would be $350+
Car audio isn't a cheap hobby.

Cool. Sounds like an option. I'm leaning towards that RE SE, but the $185 price kind of throws me off. However, I do have a little bit of extra money to use.

I'm open to more opinions though, any other suggestions?

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Yes, underpowering a sub won't hurt it. If it would, you would blow your spekers by simply turning down the volume.

As for the diffrence, 200 watts isn't that big a diffrence. Keep in mind that you have to double your power to gain 3 db. So at the most your only looking at a 2 db diffrence.

Now from what I have heard about the RE SE. Its a really nice sub, that can get pretty darn loud. So your loss might be less, especially if you put it in a well built ported box.

So your saying that an RE SE which runs at 600 RMS will be under powered by like 200 RMS will sound better than an Diamond 400 RMS?

single sub>multiple subs

ok that I can follow!

I'd go with a single resonant engineering SE 12" sub. It'd kick the snot out of both the treo and kicker for overall performance in my opinion, for around $200-250.
Stick it in a sealed fiberglassed enclosure for a custom look, very tight, deep response, and minimal space used.

For components, this will depend on budget, but $150 is a bit shallow for a good front stage. May want to bump that up a bit to around 250-300. The front stage is vital to a good overall system
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SEAS lotus, DLS, JL audio XR, focal perhaps.. lots of great comp sets in that size worth looking at.
Do you like a more "bright" aggressive sound from your vocals and treble, or do you want a smoother, more laid back sort of response?

JL will give you the brighter sound, where SEAS would be more smooth and silky by comparison.

I prefer the smoother sounding comps myself, for jazz and detailed or complex passages in classical/baroque, pink floyd, tori amos' piano work, and so forth.