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by shawndaddy » Sun Mar 05, 2006 10:50 pm

I see that car audio isn't the only thing you guys know. I like Bush, and I'm sick of the bashing. Anything bad that happens somehow gets twisted up and blamed on the administration. I believe the media is very biased and downright unamerican at times. I like fox news, and I have yet to talk to a democrat that doesnt laugh in my face and tell me that fox isn't even a news channel. Most democrats that I have spoken to believe the republican party is full of bigots and closet racists. Even though the republican party was formed to fight slavery, and has always fought for equal rights. check out stoptherepublicans.blogspot.com

by lotas » Sun Mar 05, 2006 11:13 am

[quote="kevinberry1"]Lotas, the notion of a "Liberal Media" is baseless and an outright myth. Have you ever read the book "What Liberal Media" by Eric Alterman? I would highly suggest it. He provides a lot of evidence to disprove this and how many conservatives make this claim without any substantiation. His determination, based on historical evidence, is that the media is neither more conservative or liberal, but that it tends to follow what is popular and what people are interested in]
Good points Kevin I agree, but as far as the media deal, something still tells me you could read a book titled "The Liberal Media" and they would have just as many points.
I do agree with the winner-take all system. 3rd parties just have no chance in America. If they weren't so radical and they'd cast their net in a little more on the spectrum I think they'd have a better chance.

I'm just gonna go back to the 70's and agree with Roger Waters and Floyd with their song "Money", mixed with a bit of bipartisan politics and a winner-take all system. That should pretty much sum it up.

If you don't have boatloads of money, and you aren't running for the Republicans or Democrats, you are a third party and you will not win. Maybe we should revise the winner take all system of politics?

Really I don't like to label myself as a Republican or Democrat, I go for conservative/liberal and authoritarian/libertarian.

by Jonathan » Sat Mar 04, 2006 10:03 pm

"America is the only country that went from barbarism to decadence without civilization in between."
-Oscar Wilde

That pretty much sums it up.

Long :)

by kevinberry1 » Sat Mar 04, 2006 9:50 pm

Lotas, the notion of a "Liberal Media" is baseless and an outright myth. Have you ever read the book "What Liberal Media" by Eric Alterman? I would highly suggest it. He provides a lot of evidence to disprove this and how many conservatives make this claim without any substantiation. His determination, based on historical evidence, is that the media is neither more conservative or liberal, but that it tends to follow what is popular and what people are interested in; pure capitalism at work. He provides numerous examples of the media's facination with recent and past events that are in direct conflict with the liberal media myth.

Also, are you aware of who controls 90% of the media in the United States, including television, radio, magazines, and newspapers? Fewer than 5, and they are all white males and almost entirely conservative (and extremely wealthy). Their monopoly has flourished under the current administration with the conservatively controlled FCC allowing them more power with outright violations of U.S. anti-trust legislation.

I believe the real concern in our country is not how liberal or conservative the media is, but how the 2-party system is ruining politics. I was very hopeful that Bush would protect civil liberities and limit the role of the federal government when elected to office, since these were issues paramount to his campaign. However, much of what he has done in office has contradicted this, by going against the longtime republican platform of preferring states' rights versus federal involvment. Of course that was only important when democrats were in office, but now that republicans control the exectutive and legislative branches, the role of the federal government has been expanded. See the Patriot act and the Terry Shaivo case as examples of this, not to mention the huge increase in the federal governments expansion. Bush has increased the number of Federal programs, employees, and expenditure. The democrats did the same thing in office and now ironically are pressing the issue of "states' rights" because they have limited federal power and control.

In my opinion, it doesn't really come down to an issue of democrats versus republicans, but rather citizens versus politicians becuase whomever is in power appears to make an attempt to increase their party's power, influence, and control of citizens. Both parties favor certain groups, and they will say and do anything to retain and expand their control, power, etc. The sooner we realize how corrupt both paties are, and stop pointing the finger "across the aisle", our country will be much better off...

by William from NOLA » Sat Mar 04, 2006 9:33 pm

Yea, even more so down here. I'd say more sidewards than crooked...

by MobileAudio219 » Sat Mar 04, 2006 9:30 pm

[quote="JonathanAll politicians are crooked, no getting around it.[/QUOTE"]

I agree...

by Jonathan » Sat Mar 04, 2006 9:22 pm

Clinton released oil reserves before the 96' election to lower gas prices and make the economy seem better.

All politicians are crooked, no getting around it.

by sinister audio » Sat Mar 04, 2006 9:21 pm

i think if i was old enough at the time and registered i would of voted for ross perot i know alot of people didnt like (cause he didnt win) but i think he would of actually done some stuff right. i know that was kinda off topic.

by MobileAudio219 » Sat Mar 04, 2006 9:13 pm

I refuse to be labeled when it comes to politics, both parties have their ups and downs... IMO though, Bush won the election the 2nd time around by playing the anti abortion card, by doing so he won the religious vote... Notice though, he's done nothing to stop it?

Would Kerry have been any better? Maybe, maybe not...

With that being said, I don't really care for or trust Bush...

If H. Clinton runs next term I will be voting for her, most won't like me for that but oh :unwell028 well...

by Bwcad1 » Sat Mar 04, 2006 7:12 pm

wow... i never met so many people who have the exact samethinking as i do... im so tired of everyone blaming bush its total bs... jordan i know your reading this and pissing your pants but face the facts (jordan {eaglflrys} is hard core democrat and bush hater) they have been posted above... now i want to here your argument.

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