by Jonathan » Mon Feb 27, 2006 5:10 pm
"why is it bullshit? is it because their car wont break down causing them to win every race? haha i heard something like that accually.."
Actually, plenty of teams last year went the entire season without blowing a single engine. Toyota is already in the truck series, and it's Ford that has won all races thus far. It isn't really the fact of competition.
It's bullshit because it destroys all the heritage that NASCAR had to begin with; they were the last true American motorsport. NASCAR started with a bunch of moonshine runners taking bets on who had the fastest car, in which the competition eventually led to the beginning of stock car racing. Not something Toyota was ever a factor in. Toyota doesn't have a heritage in this country, it's been about vanilla sedans and compact trucks ever since they've been here. They've never really had any engineering breakthroughs, nor wowed anyone with a car design because their method is to play it safe and try to improve on someone else's engineering. They're hurting this country more than helping. Japan puts a cap on how many vehicles we can sell over there, we should have done the same. Nascar isn't really what it used to be anyway, so I guess it's irrelevant. Maybe with the Mustang, Challenger, and Camaro making strong comebacks, we can see some Trans Am racing come back :happy055:
I guess I'm a bit sour because I have a lot of friends that work or used to work in Doraville (GM Plant). I don't like seeing them scramble to trying to sell their homes, their cars, their furnishings, or go through the stress of finding new jobs, new homes, and new cities to live in before their contracts go out. Count in the other GM plant closings and the Ford plant closings, I can only imagine what these people are going through right now. If they aren't already gone, they're under huge stress getting ready for it. Nobody buys based on principle anymore, it's all about market hype and the cheapest price.
Most "imports" are built in the US or North America at least, but they still don't employ nearly as many people as the domestic manufacturers do (in percentages either, mind you), nor do they funnel their profits back into our economy as much. Most goes right back to the motherland, and with a weak yen our dollars are as good as gold. That's why their profits have skyrocketed. This page pretty much sums up the whole situation
http://www.howtobuyamerican.com/bamw/ba ... 7-gm.shtml
"I can't remember the exact number, but I believe 25% of a vehicle or so that is made in america is considered domestic. My Corolla is 75% american made."
In the 80s this was true (like the old Korean built Festivas and such), but not the case now. They're about even.
"why is it bullshit? is it because their car wont break down causing them to win every race? haha i heard something like that accually.."
Actually, plenty of teams last year went the entire season without blowing a single engine. Toyota is already in the truck series, and it's Ford that has won all races thus far. It isn't really the fact of competition.
It's bullshit because it destroys all the heritage that NASCAR had to begin with; they were the last true American motorsport. NASCAR started with a bunch of moonshine runners taking bets on who had the fastest car, in which the competition eventually led to the beginning of stock car racing. Not something Toyota was ever a factor in. Toyota doesn't have a heritage in this country, it's been about vanilla sedans and compact trucks ever since they've been here. They've never really had any engineering breakthroughs, nor wowed anyone with a car design because their method is to play it safe and try to improve on someone else's engineering. They're hurting this country more than helping. Japan puts a cap on how many vehicles we can sell over there, we should have done the same. Nascar isn't really what it used to be anyway, so I guess it's irrelevant. Maybe with the Mustang, Challenger, and Camaro making strong comebacks, we can see some Trans Am racing come back :happy055:
I guess I'm a bit sour because I have a lot of friends that work or used to work in Doraville (GM Plant). I don't like seeing them scramble to trying to sell their homes, their cars, their furnishings, or go through the stress of finding new jobs, new homes, and new cities to live in before their contracts go out. Count in the other GM plant closings and the Ford plant closings, I can only imagine what these people are going through right now. If they aren't already gone, they're under huge stress getting ready for it. Nobody buys based on principle anymore, it's all about market hype and the cheapest price.
Most "imports" are built in the US or North America at least, but they still don't employ nearly as many people as the domestic manufacturers do (in percentages either, mind you), nor do they funnel their profits back into our economy as much. Most goes right back to the motherland, and with a weak yen our dollars are as good as gold. That's why their profits have skyrocketed. This page pretty much sums up the whole situation [url]http://www.howtobuyamerican.com/bamw/bamw-050507-gm.shtml[/url]
"I can't remember the exact number, but I believe 25% of a vehicle or so that is made in america is considered domestic. My Corolla is 75% american made."
In the 80s this was true (like the old Korean built Festivas and such), but not the case now. They're about even.