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by **mikechec9** » Thu Feb 16, 2006 4:00 pm

It’s all pretty surreal to me. The once "legendary" blah, blah... reduced to this. It just so happens that I’m in the shop on the wkends trying to get this front stage set-up. The 6.5 have been out for some time now, so I’m basically listening to 300 Hz and up. While the Brahmas would certainly help to mask the inadequacies of the system right now, I’m really the "all or none" type personality anyway. So, hopefully we'll be done by next month (at this rate). By then, I expect to have my subs back, or I’ll just have to drop another 4-7 on a different pair. I’ve been through shady warranties with eBay stores, but never expected it from the manufacturer itself. It’s like they are straight pimping my subs for hostage and letting me know that there's nothing I can do about it. If they lost the darn things, I would consider the tumults in their stead, but after this tempest issue...*grumble* I’m pretty sure I’m pretty much spent with these guys.
*edit*

Jonathan wrote:Well, I think you of all people know how successful they've been in the past with new glue batches.
Plenty of other companies out there. After hearing the midwoofer that was "Designed to take on - and beat - drivers like the legendary ScanSpeak 8545, Seas Excel offerings, and other high-end European drivers the Extremis 6.8 simply takes everything to another level.", I was left sorely disappointed. Not a bad driver, but it can't wipe the ass of a SEAS Excel or a ScanSpeak Revelator.

at least i know who to call if i ever need some fertilizer for the front lawn.

by **Jonathan** » Thu Feb 16, 2006 12:01 am

mikechec9 wrote:come to think of it, the tempest and the maelstrom are supposed to be the spl units of the company.
"We even developed some new glues, and we exclusively use cyanoacrylates. Amazingly expensive (runs about $300/pound), but extremely resilient and strong. Simply the best glues you can use, bar none. The glue for the former joints (spider/cone/former connections) is a new high temperature blend that maintains over 3300 PSI of bonding strength at a temperature of 300 deg C. To rip a spider from the former takes around 400 pounds of force - it just doesn't happen unless something goes REALLY wrong in operation.
Likewise the glue to hold the plate laminations and motor together. A drop of a Koda motor from 8 feet on to hard concrete shattered the aluminum basket, and cracked the magnet, but the motor stayed glued together, and nothing shifted."
"If you want a balls-to-the-wall SPL sub, don't go with the Brahma or Tumult - go with the Tempest or Maelstrom. Those are the SPL units."
sounds like someone should run for a political position. particularly based on the above images. a potentail ed in the making indeed.

Well, I think you of all people know how successful they've been in the past with new glue batches.

Plenty of other companies out there. After hearing the midwoofer that was "Designed to take on - and beat - drivers like the legendary ScanSpeak 8545, Seas Excel offerings, and other high-end European drivers the Extremis 6.8 simply takes everything to another level.", I was left sorely disappointed. Not a bad driver, but it can't wipe the ass of a SEAS Excel or a ScanSpeak Revelator.

by **Jonathan** » Wed Feb 15, 2006 11:45 pm

Peerless and Dayton have some attractive alternatives for little cash output. The Dayton Reference and Peerless XXLS are excellent subs, though the Dayton would be the better car sub simply because the Peerless has an untreated paper cone (performance degrades with moisture). Not *quite* as much output as a Tempest, but saying the Dayton is on special for $104, you can get two for the cost of a Tempest. They're also ready to ship from a very reputable distributor (Parts Express).

by **Scarrell** » Wed Feb 15, 2006 9:28 pm

yeah it sucks ass but theres always room for improvement, so.. ohwell... i need to get some components and crap anyway.. plus im lookin to get a truck, so... fuk'er

by **audiobass10** » Wed Feb 15, 2006 7:22 pm

I think i'd avoid ever having to go through Adire's customer service again. There are plenty of other companies out there. Check out your options man.

by **mikechec9** » Wed Feb 15, 2006 7:10 pm

come to think of it, the tempest and the maelstrom are supposed to be the spl units of the company.
"We even developed some new glues, and we exclusively use cyanoacrylates. Amazingly expensive (runs about $300/pound), but extremely resilient and strong. Simply the best glues you can use, bar none. The glue for the former joints (spider/cone/former connections) is a new high temperature blend that maintains over 3300 PSI of bonding strength at a temperature of 300 deg C. To rip a spider from the former takes around 400 pounds of force - it just doesn't happen unless something goes REALLY wrong in operation.
Likewise the glue to hold the plate laminations and motor together. A drop of a Koda motor from 8 feet on to hard concrete shattered the aluminum basket, and cracked the magnet, but the motor stayed glued together, and nothing shifted."
"If you want a balls-to-the-wall SPL sub, don't go with the Brahma or Tumult - go with the Tempest or Maelstrom. Those are the SPL units."
sounds like someone should run for a political position. particularly based on the above images. a potentail ed in the making indeed.

by **audiobass10** » Wed Feb 15, 2006 6:44 pm

I'd replace that thing with an SX. I can beat on mine all damn day giving it 1.2k and rarely even bother the sub.

by **mikechec9** » Wed Feb 15, 2006 6:20 pm

Ryan from Ohio wrote:Hmmm...
Its a shame to see them go from a quality product to an out sourced garbage...

they actually now have their own build house. but yes, i believe it's in chile. but the bs that they shoot to their customers is rediculous. if you can't do it, just say so. follow up and send out updates as to the status. or at bare minimum, return emails or phone calls. if i ever get my subs back, i'm fairly certain they will have heard the last of me (shaking fist). positively at least.

by **Ryan from Ohio** » Wed Feb 15, 2006 6:06 pm

Hmmm...

Yet another company that started off good start to turn to crude?

I hope not!

Its a shame to see them go from a quality product to an out sourced garbage...

Well I think there is enough info here to fairly warrant them into the Questionable list. They are sounding so MUCH like Elemental Designs.

by **mikechec9** » Wed Feb 15, 2006 5:34 pm

i agree. should have let their superior performance speak for itself. let the rep do the talking for them.

*edit* so much for that rep :angry15:

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