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by MobileAudio219 » Tue Feb 07, 2006 1:00 pm

KikiTheCat wrote:so I finally gave up my shortlived musical career, and became an engineer instead.
Don't feel bad, thats about what 99% of the newer bands should do, but instead of being an engineer they should work at mcdonalds. :D

by GlassWolf » Tue Feb 07, 2006 12:51 pm

is that how those things work? I could never figure it out so I finally gave up my shortlived musical career, and became an engineer instead.

by smoker » Tue Feb 07, 2006 6:32 am

so you blow?

by GlassWolf » Mon Feb 06, 2006 6:27 pm

I had a kazoo once.




it had perfect pitch.

by smoker » Mon Feb 06, 2006 5:55 pm

i had an s-10 once a 1993 that i had quart 6.5's in the doors and kicker r4's and quart neo tweets in custom kicks....had to make them myself so the brake would still be usable....sounded great....

by MobileAudio219 » Sat Feb 04, 2006 9:20 pm

sweet, thanks... I guess I'll probably start on them tomorrow!

by Jonathan » Sat Feb 04, 2006 8:45 pm

"Or the mids only first, then the tweeters with the mids?"

That one.

by MobileAudio219 » Sat Feb 04, 2006 8:42 pm

So do the mids only first, then the tweeters only?

Or the mids only first, then the tweeters with the mids?

I'll use what I got now to sorta practice on.

This summer I WILL HAVE A NICE SOUND QUALITY SYSTEM!

by Jonathan » Sat Feb 04, 2006 8:06 pm

"Any time I set up a car - before arbitrarily "just angling it" some imaginary angle - make a baffle out of wood, screw the speaker to it.
Mount a wood panel to the door.
Take small pieces of wood, or even very long screws, and temporarily suspend that speaker at different angles - with no tweeters connected - just listen to the mid (on the crossover, just like it's supposed to be )."

Fully agree with Geo on this one. I never saw the point in people bragging about speakers being laser aligned with the dome light, it won't guarantee anything with the odd shapes you encounter in a car. In addition to his advice, one thing I do is use Plumber's strap, it's stiff enough to hold a speaker in place and flexible enough to allow you to tweak angling in the process. Once I get the angling right, I make bracing to hold the MDF ring in place while stretching fleece over it.

"And it's not so much important to keep the "mid and the tweeter near each other", because that's not what matters - what matters really is keeping the pathlength distance (the distance from each speaker to your ear) equal, with regard to the tweeter and the mid - and one way that risk is often minimized is to locate the tweeter near the mid.
But ultimately, it's phasing anomolies you are looking to eliminate, that are possible if there is a difference in pathlength distances comparing the tweeter to the mid."

Amen. This concept seems to baffle even experienced competitors, and past that you also get into Head Related Transfer Function, in which imaging won't even depend upon pathlength, it's all about volume past that point (within reason, of course). So many concepts that people seem to miss, primarily how to cater to the characteristics of the human auditory system.

by MobileAudio219 » Sat Feb 04, 2006 6:15 pm

I'll mess with it and get it the best I can. This summer I'm going to start fresh and redo the entire system, might go all Elevation Audio.?.?

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