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by Jonathan » Thu Jan 05, 2006 10:49 am

Yeah that's right, I was thinking about the Dayton softie, my bad.

I've heard the breakup around 5khz doesn't really show itself that bad in a car door, but I haven't done it to say whether that's true or not. It makes sense since you usually won't get much over 2khz off axis in a door.

by racerraul » Thu Jan 05, 2006 10:25 am

Jonathan wrote:Lower bass performance is especially better than the Lotus. It's just a question of whether your average car audio enthusiast could design/construct the necessary notch filter and crossover for the midbass driver. Something I try to keep in mind when recommending stuff. I'd pair the midbass with a ribbon before a soft dome, though :) .
Indeed... that would be very challenging for the average enthusiast. I certainly did not mean to imply otherwise. Although, it can be worked around in an active setup.

I have not had the pleasure of listening to ribbons yet, but here is an interesting test review on some ribbons....
http://www.zaphaudio.com/nondomes/

The Dayton RS28 is not a soft dome in case you were thinking it was...

by Darthness » Thu Jan 05, 2006 10:23 am

my tweets are in. can't wait to install these pups

by Darthness » Thu Jan 05, 2006 3:42 am

my tweeters ge there today and my speakerwire tommorow... although i have no idea how im going to run the speaker wire up there. thats saturday's project.

by Jonathan » Wed Jan 04, 2006 11:26 pm

"If I ever find myself splurging that much on a 2way component set it would probably be for the Seas Excel W18's wich I believe is a better driver than their Mobile line."

Lower bass performance is especially better than the Lotus. It's just a question of whether your average car audio enthusiast could design/construct the necessary notch filter and crossover for the midbass driver. Something I try to keep in mind when recommending stuff. I'd pair the midbass with a ribbon before a soft dome, though :) .

by racerraul » Wed Jan 04, 2006 9:19 am

That will do just fine... they will be xOver @ 5k & above that point you wont have much issue with them in the a-pillars. It will just help pull the highs up. Also, start with your gains all the way down & slowly turn up your tweeters until you get the desired sound you are looking for & take care to listen for signs of stress.

Firing them into the windshield will make them brighter.

by Darthness » Wed Jan 04, 2006 7:40 am

ok guys... so my tweeters will be here tommorow! i'd like to get them installed on saturday if my speaker wire comes in time. what will be the best palce to install them, i was thinking the a-pillars since my one of my "sail" panels has the mirror adjuster thing. also, i belive Raul was telling me to aim the tweeters at each other?

by sinister audio » Wed Jan 04, 2006 6:46 am

the JLs i installed were off axis so that could of been the problem but had a very nice kick panel i made for them

by racerraul » Wed Jan 04, 2006 6:45 am

Jonathan wrote: I actually like the SEAS Lotus Reference set much better, midbass driver on that set is the best 6.5" driver I've ever heard for clarity and detail, tweeters are very nice, too. They're $745. Tweeter on the Platinums was better, but not so much better that it justifies the cost.
If I ever find myself splurging that much on a 2way component set it would probably be for the Seas Excel W18's wich I believe is a better driver than their Mobile line. And probably pair them to Dayton RS28 tweeters & be well under $700.

$700 however is a lot of money, and I feel confident that is enough money to put together a 3way set, that should outperform any 4 figure 2way comp set.

by Jonathan » Tue Jan 03, 2006 10:19 pm

The JLs are a very good set, but ONLY if installed correctly. The sets are very picky on positioning. A good kick panel install will bring them out, though. Off axis isn't the best on them.

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