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by sonso_chi » Thu Jun 23, 2005 4:27 pm

i hooked up the deck and it works...i'm gonna get rid of it though (and now it is used).....which will lead me to making another thread.....x vs. y....hope you are not to tired of those yet....

i was gonna make a fake cover...but i started talking to more of my guys and just decided to get a face off deck...i am probably one of few that does take the face with me

..i'm hoping that i won't lose too much money if not break even on the deck on eBay...

it's gonna be pioneer premeir (sp) vs. alpine....i need to do some research first though and make sure both have removable faces....thanks

it's REALLY stupid but i used to ride around and shoot windows out with a bb gun....i used to be an ass when i was younger and do stupid shit (....but i never hurt anyone directly and none of the really stupid stuff a lot of people are on)...

thanks for the feedback

...about 2-3 years ago I used to change systems about every 3 weeks (literally!!!) on eBay and I didn't lose money...actually made some from some eclipse speakers....it was a lot of fun but hopefully i won't have to go through that again....a lot of newbie type posts on the old board :)

by GlassWolf » Thu Jun 23, 2005 11:43 am

"I plan to make some sort of "fake cover"...."

look at BlitzSafe. seriously. They've been around since at least 1991 or so. They make a motorized retracting sleeve that your head unit mounts in, similar to a nrmal mounting kit if you have the depth for it, but it retracts the radio and covers the opening with a blank plate when it's activated. It's slick as hell. I've used them in 3rd gen F bodies a lot since they have the dash space for one.

"on another note, whoever was trying to shoot out windows (needless to say it wasn't a clucka) is either silly, an amateur/ignorant, or just stupid.."

they drive by and shoot the window with BB guns to see if the car has an alarm. If the alarm goes off, they keep driving. If it doesn't go off, they go back and knock it out and grab whatever tehy can. I used to turn off the alarm after tehy'd try it the third time in one night.. then I'd sit behind a tree in my yard with my .45 and wait for try number 4. They stopped trying after I left a few holes in their parents' car. Anyway, that was one way they'd try to see if cars had alarms. In my case, even if they did smash a window though, they'd have to climb through it to get anything, because the stock door locks were all removed and replaced with ones tied directly to the alarm so the only way to open the door qwas to disarm the alarm and pop the door that way. It made things more difficult for the dumb amateurs. Come to think of it, I did have one make off with the face for an alpine EQ once.. but he was about as dumb as a box of rocks anyway. He showed up in my store a week later wanting to know what he had and what it was worth. After I matched the serial number to my unit, I let him know it was worth about a year in jail, after I called the cops and reported him, and his plates on the car he drove in and parked right in front of the store windows.
total dumbass.

good deal with ebay there. glad that one worked out. that's a fair price if its in good condition and you have your own sec code for it. I was just saying retail on it was 600. If ya got it for 300 I figured that was ebay or a closeout deal at a shop making room for the new models. Still a great unit though. I had an 8454 for a bit, before I went to the alpine 7990.

yeah I'm north of Chitown in MI now, but I drive through Chicago often enough. I know the area decently. I like it here in the rural quiet now though. Man I can leave the Charger out front, in the drive with the doors open all night and nobody will touch it. Keys in it and all. I love small towns for that at least. Hell I'd probably get someone come up to say hey man, you left your car door open.. haha

by JeremyC » Wed Jun 22, 2005 7:52 pm

Yeah you choose it, unless it has been hooked up before, and set it.

by sonso_chi » Wed Jun 22, 2005 4:03 am

JeremyC wrote:I have to ask, have you hooked it up yet? Hopefully the guy that sold it turned off the security feature, or told you what cd he programed it with.
hope so...the deck came brand new...pretty sure it was unopened or he did a damn good job of packaging and ensuring there wasn't a fingerprint let alone a scratch on the deck.

hopefuly i'll have time this weekend to install it...i've only skimmed the owner's manual...but it looks like I pick a security code

correct me if i'm wrong....

..the guys eBay feedback is excellent and I read a few positive feedback for this same deck...I assume out of more than a couple of people, some would have sense to intstall the unit before they go leaving positive feedback

...we'll see though

by JeremyC » Wed Jun 22, 2005 2:34 am

I have to ask, have you hooked it up yet? Hopefully the guy that sold it turned off the security feature, or told you what cd he programed it with.

by sonso_chi » Tue Jun 21, 2005 8:37 pm

had to edit...perhaps i was still venting when I originally wrote this...

...nothing new to say about the hood, I'd only be re-writing what I wrote before....NOTHING new to me...again...NOTHING new to me...I don't care if you stayed on my block now or came up in south shore with me...come on, we are talking hypes here...

I WAS VENTING!!!...most important point of my post...as written..I was VENTING....I refer you to my previous posts

all I was saying in my original reply to you is that I know what's up and I sincerely thanked you for the useful advice (NO sarcasm)...I plan to make some sort of "fake cover"....

...all the theorizing on what cluckas will do is FUNNY and that's part of what is funny to me...I don't even address it past that...there's nothing for me to say or prove or theorize...all I could possibly offfer is come my way....don't matter if you're in LA, Humbolt park, or N.O.....ain't no one telling me different than what I seen with my own two...

on another note, whoever was trying to shoot out windows (needless to say it wasn't a clucka) is either silly, an amateur/ignorant, or just stupid....if they can't just smash the window and it's that serious to be shooting your window (unless they are scary {i.e. scared to cnfront you} and just wanted to scare you...if that makes sense), they should've just stuck you up/ jacked you...PLEASE no stories about cluckas who own guns, I them too...nothing new to me

i already rapped with some cats my way, we know what's up over here...PLEASE no one send me no 'ish about people I holler at getting at me...AGAIN, I know what's up

$300 at eBay....i know a lot of cats don't F wit ebay...but there are still a # of them left at the same price...and the deck is legit

...again....thank you for the useful advise....

the rest of this particular post is all foolish so feel free to overlook it----->
I am not in any disbelief regarding your story, and I know all about when your parts were the murder capitol...and perhaps you know who took on that infamous title afterwards and still contending for it now...and by now you know that I know the cats/f with the cats that give these parts that title...but if it were some cats out here that wanted your stuff bad enough to shoot your windows...they'd have it...PERIOD...

by GlassWolf » Tue Jun 21, 2005 7:27 pm

you didn't buy it retail then. you probably got it usedI'm guessing? Clearance sale somewhere?

I grew up and worked doing car audio in DC, so don't tell me about not understanding what it's like in an inner city. DC at the time I was there was the "murder capitol of the world." I parked my car on the street every night, with huge ORION and ALPINE and PPI stickers all over it and nobody screwed with it. A couple times I came out in the morning to a broken window in the years I had the car, but nothing was ever stripped out of the car, and the alarm let me know something was up any time it went off, so it served plenty of use. The window tint held the glass in place after it was shot, so it never scattered over the inside of the car. Probably why nobody tried any harder to get into it, along with the door locks being replaced so you had to know where the button was to release the doors from inside or out.

The real problem here is that you didn't bother to do any research before getting the head unit, or you'd have known exactly what the security feature was. Instead, you assumed, or just didn't bother to look. That's your own fault to be blunt. sorry.

I gave you several options that were perfectly viable as well. If you don't want everything stolen, don't advertise it. Don't bling out your car, tint your windows, put stickers on it, rims, etc.. don't play the system within about 10 blocks of your residence, and don't brag about it or show it off. Don't expose the system and do a stealth install.
That'll solve 95% of the attempts on your belongings right there. An alarm that uses a glass breakage mic instead of a shock sensor, along with doors, hood, and trunk pins and a good pager system will handle any other amateurs. A good full coverage insurance policy will cover the professionals.

good luck.

by sonso_chi » Tue Jun 21, 2005 7:01 pm

funny...

I've lived in the hood my entire life (minus years down at college)...I know these cats

The way cluckas, cats that steal, the stick up game, (the murder game also as a matter of fact) etc. is nothing new to me...nothing new...needless to say no one here wants to hear about that and I know you all don't care

I can do nothing but laugh at many of your statements Kiki

...trust me, a security system ain't gonna do 'ish (got one already anyway), "park in a garage" is so laughable I can only address that statement in that way...I'm south side Chicago..stop playing...

as I already admitted I was venting...

minus the futile statements, sincere thanks for the real advice.....and the tons of good advice you've given me in the past....

btw....only paid $300

by GlassWolf » Tue Jun 21, 2005 4:16 am

buy a damned alarm system.

If you can afford $600 head unit, you can afford an alarm.
there are also other methods you can take to further security, such as mounting the radio in a non-stock location, and using a hide-away device from a company like BlitzSafe that retracts the entire head unit behind a blank plate when you turn off the car.
The Eclipse security design is excellent since removeable faces and pull-outs invariably end up in the glove box, center console, under a deat, or in the trunk anyway which makes it even easier to steal.

If you want real security, park somewhere better, like in a garage, or don't put expensive things in something as easy to break into as a car.

by sonso_chi » Tue Jun 21, 2005 3:41 am

My friend had a $50 dollar no name deck that looked like some stock CD player, it was so horrible no one thought it would be a problem, and a crack head still broke in his car...in certain areas, your deck won't last a week parked outside...

That aside....thanks for the input as I was really frustrated....i've had my car broken into before....but since the deck is such a work of art I am going to try and make a fake cover....

any suggestions???

Thank you

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